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Originally posted by Locoman8
God saw good in his "re-creation" but his former angel Lucifer... now Satan, is the cause of evil and chaos due to his rebellion. God had to change plans but the all-knowing God was prepared. He had every contingency plan mapped out. If ___ happens then I'll place plan A in action. If ____ happens then I'll place plan B in action. The Goal has never changed..... just the road to that goal.
Originally posted by HolgerTheDane
I've learnt that the world is 4.500 million years old. If you're very religious it's not 4.500 million years old it is 6.000 years old.
Originally posted by valiant
Why does satan posess so much power? and how can he? if we are told that god is the be all and end all, then how could satan possibly lead an attack to overthrow god? would'nt that be a waste of time?
Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
It's just the way things are written/told is as if satan had enough fallen angels on his side, he could overthrow god? how can this be?
Why give lucifer earth aswell? and then send us here to be his playthings? why not send him to mars where their's nobody to harm? we create enough evil ourselve's without the aid of lucifer!
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Originally posted by iamnot
Here's another interesting thing all found in the first chapter of Genesis.
God created Light the first day and called the light day but
The sun, moon and stars to light upon the earth, he created the fourth day.
Also the firmanent of heaven he placed in the midst of the waters to separate the waters beneath from the waters above. So apparently there is more water beyond the sky and space.
Originally posted by katoomer3
Originally posted by allgoodnamesaretaken
Thank you for a thoughtful and logical response to the people who blindly believe in evolution, the idea that everything has been created from a few billion chemical reactions that randomly produced life.
The Church of Evolution is a faith-based religion that requires tremendous amounts of bias, much like the religion of man-made global warming.
Good luck withstanding the slings and arrows that will come from the many ATS members who pride themselves on their hatred of God and particularly Christianity.
Please do NOT generalize everyone who doesn't believe in "your" religion of choice as hating God or Christianity. It's particularly absurd to believe someone hates a being that they don't believe exists. Not all of us non-believers are on a crusade against organized religion.
Please us a little more logic, knowledge, and respect in your future posts.
[edit on 30-12-2009 by katoomer3]
Originally posted by whatsup
It's so easy to string a bunch of scripture together in such an attempt to make it logically palatable. However, there are enough logical holes in the bible to drive a fleet of aircraft carriers through when one is not subject to these 'confirmation bias' strategies. We could even start with Gen 2 which implies that there were no plants on the earth and no rain, because there was no man to till the ground. Yeah right, no plants or rain before homo sapien.
[edit on 1-1-2010 by whatsup]