I am not attempting to pick on your post valiant. You along with various others have asked such questions, and have been left with a similiar
So in an attempt to offer an answer, I chose your post, since it covered the majority of all of this line of queries, and asked in a manner which
allows for a complete reply.
Originally posted by valiant
Why does satan posess so much power? and how can he? if we are told that god is the be all and end all, then how could satan possibly lead an attack
to overthrow god? would'nt that be a waste of time?
Satan posesses so much power, because he was created this way. It truly is this simple. He held one of the Highest honours in Heaven and failed due to
I think it would be a good thing to first see how Satan once appeared.
Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full
of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and
the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day
that thou wast created.
28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the
midst of the stones of fire.
28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as
profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I
will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire
from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
Now, to be clear, THERE are some, who suggest this passage was about Nebuchadrezzar, but he was never in the Garden. He never was a Cherub. He was not
immortal. And only 1 (one) enitity at this point of time is now destine for the Firery Pits of Hell.
Here, we have all these things, that only Satan can standup and be accused of. He was all these things, and did these things, and will answer for
these things WHEN hell consumes him infront of the people and "never shalt thou be any more'. (This is another topic)
We should also consider some of his Names.
Satan, Satanel, That Serpent, The Dragon, The Prince of the Power of the Air, The Abomination of Desolation that Daniel spoke of, Apollyon, as well as
the questionable Lucifer, you note in the following. (I personally believe Satan is not the Morning Star, but again, that's another topic)
These are just off the top of my head. Are there other names? Just maybe.
Bael, Ishtar, Vulcan, Mercury, and such may well have Origins from Satan.
It's just the way things are written/told is as if satan had enough fallen angels on his side, he could overthrow god? how can this
Now, I wish to be clear I feel the Fall occured between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, but we can see references to the Fall, or a Second Fall within
the Book of Enoch. 200 of the Angels left their place of habitation, namely being Heaven, and made a pack together. This figure represents 1/3 of the
Sons of GOD.
Book of Enoch Chapter 6
Now, sit back and review some of the following.
These are the fallen, doing exactly what the Bible expressed they did. Came to earth and have offspring with the daughters of man, and became GODS.
They also had "Gifts" of knowledge to give man.
Book of Enoch Chapter 8
So I would ask you two things.
1: If any of this is anything close to accurate, do you understand the reasons they are refered to as gods?
2: If this is the best Satan can manage to put together, what do you think the other 2/3s would be capible of. (Twice as much as the fallen could
So in light of your question here, I would offer this.
a: Satan KNOWS he can not win, but pride resists common sense from stopping him.
b: Satan will once again, have a free run for some 3 1/2 years to 7 years in a final attempt to win, during this earth age. Again, he knows he can
not win. It even get worst than this. After the 1000 years of the Millenium Kingdom, he gets loosed once more, and again, he knows he can not win.
It still doesn't stop him from trying and trying and trying to take as many with him as he can.
And if I did not miss the point, it is actually one small thing he was trying to do in the Garden. Destroy the Bloodline so Jesus couldn't be born as
Why give lucifer earth aswell? and then send us here to be his playthings? why not send him to mars where their's nobody to harm? we create
enough evil ourselve's without the aid of lucifer!
I think if Satan and the fallen did not do as they did, this earth would have been quite a wonderful place. ALL of the problems this earth is
currently going thru stem from the acts of the Fallen, and they are doing today, what they did in the days of Noah, only many refer to them as
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.