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Originally posted by Mindmelding
reply to post by ThePeoplesSoldier
Don't give me the "you've got choices because someone died" croc. That's a fairytale you got fed so you'd feel noble about what you do. It's a complete and utter lie. Nobody died for me to be free, I am free in principle, in my mind. I don't need an army to protect me from another army, when two armies collide you don't have the protection of freedom, we just have a human tragedy and loss of life as young impressionable males piss their lives away for a flag, banner or a wage. It's not the defense of freedom, it's the exploitation of man, underlined in blood red. Men who let their hormones overtake their minds.
Get this through your head: Men fight because they want to, not because they have to. There is always a way out, it's a complex universe, but so many are scared of the unknown to a point where they would rather accept a reality that is bad.
War was never noble. And it was never necessary. It has always been the creation of psychopaths, who lie and manipulate the gullible until they find themselves mind-controlled into a position where they think that they have to fight.
Maybe sometime in the hard times ahead you'll find yourself bashing some peaceful disobedient, and at that point, where you realize you're the one in the wrong, you're the one manifesting evil, you may learn something about yourself.
It's all about choices.
Articles of Freedom of Continental Congress 2009 THIS IS MY PLEDGE: Through the Creator as our witness, we hereby pledge our signatures to this end, in order to hold our elected and appointed officials accountable for all of their violations, with a reminder to our public officials that they have sworn an Oath (or Affirmation), to Preserve, Protect and Defend the Constitution for the United States of America. We the undersigned renounce and condemn INITIATION of force and will pursue all lawful and Constitutional means to fulfill our duty. I place my name as an Eternal Record of the Will Of The People to be Free.
Originally posted by rusethorcain
Originally posted by ThePeoplesSoldier
I think your peace loving hippie ass would have a slightly different perspective on what REALITY is.
The next time you see a soldier, your not required to shake his hand. You’re not required to thank him or even acknowledge him. We don’t ask for it and for most of us don’t even care for it. But please, what ever you do, don’t spit on him. You don’t know where he’s been or what he’s had to endure.
(visit the link for the full news article)
My peace loving hippy ass thanks you from the bottom of my heart for your service and your post. Bless you friend. I know you will agree, Peace is not so bad when we can get it.
Originally posted by vermonster
reply to post by ThePeoplesSoldier
boo hoo, i don't buy it.
You helped invade a sovereign nation, overthrew the existing government and set up a puppet dictatorship.
Meanwhile, your fellow citizen's civil libertys have been whittled away.
1st AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF SPEECH
• The Patriot Act broadly expands the official definition of
terrorism, so that many domestic groups that engage in
nonviolent civil disobedience could very well find themselves
labeled as terrorists.
• The Government may now prosecute librarians or keepers
of any other records if they reveal that the government
requested information on their clients or members in the
course of an investigation. It has become a crime for these
individuals to try to safeguard your privacy or to tell you
that you are under investigation.
1st AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION
• Government agents may now monitor the First Amendmentprotected
activities of religious and political institutions, and
then infiltrate these groups with no suspicion of criminal
activity. This is a return to domestic spying on law-abiding
religious and political groups.
• You may now be the subject of a government investigation
simply because of the political, activist, or advocacy
groups you are involved in, or the statements you make
within these groups.
1st AMENDMENT RIGHT TO ACCESS
• A U.S. Department of Justice directive actively encourages
federal, state, and local officials to resist and/or limit access
to government records through Freedom of Information Act
• The Government has conducted immigration hearings in
secret behind closed doors. Such proceedings were once
open to the public. Hundreds, if not thousands, of immigrants
have already been deported in secret.
4th AMENDMENT FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE
• Law Enforcement authorities may now conduct secret searches and wiretaps in your home or office
without showing “probable cause.” They need only to claim that intelligence gathering is “a significant
purpose” of their intrusion, even when the primary goal is ordinary law enforcement. They may also
monitor where and to whom you send and receive e-mail, or where you go on the Internet, recording
every e-mail address and website you have been in contact with.
• Law Enforcement may now demand any personal records held by any source including your doctor,
employer, accountant, or library. All they have to do is claim that it is related to an investigation into
“terrorism.” The record keepers may not reveal that your records were provided to the government.
• Judicial oversight of secret searches has been effectively minimized. The Patriot Act directs judges to
consent to secret searches based only on the Government’s assertion that a “significant” purpose of
an investigation is gathering information related to “terrorism,” as the government defines it.
5th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS & FREEDOM FROM BEING
HELD WITHOUT CHARGE
• Americans can now be jailed without a formal charge & without the right to confront the witnesses or
evidence against them. American citizens are now being held in military jails without charge and without
a clear path of appeal for their indefinite confinement.
• Hundreds of Arab, Muslim and South Asian men were rounded up in the Ashcroft raids following
September 11, and held for weeks without charges until all were cleared of terrorism charges
6th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION
• Hundreds of U.S. residents have been detained for months at a time, and denied access to the advice
and advocacy of an attorney. The Government may now monitor conversations between attorneys &
clients in federal jails.
• The Bush Administration filed papers in court that arguing that an American citizen held in a military
jail without charge should be denied access to legal counsel because such access would interfere with
the process of his interrogation.
6th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL
• The U.S. Government may now jail its residents and citizens indefinitely without charge & without a public trial.
8th AMENDMENT FREEDOM FROM CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS
• The U.S. Government has taken into custody individuals they identify as “material witnesses,” transported
them across the country, and held them for months in solitary confinement without charge or
contact with their family.
• According to the Justice Department’s own Inspector General, immigrant men rounded up in the
Ashcroft raids following September 11 and held in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, NY
were subjected to a pattern of “physical and verbal abuse.”
14th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO EQUAL PROTECTION
• Over 82,000 men from Arab, Muslim and South Asian countries registered with the Government
under the Special Registration program. Over 13,000 are now in deportation proceedings. None
have been charged with terrorism.
Originally posted by FIFIGI
I am doing what I am doing, because I am ordered to and also WELL PAID. If they tell me to kill, I'll kill. It does not bother me that I believe in God and He Himself had told that I shell not Kill. I can not see the problem in following the orders because, that means I am not responsible for what I have done. God knows that and will forgive me all the pain and suffering I have caused by following orders.
God bless you, as long as it does not contradict orders I am given.
P.S. I am not a bio-robot as some of you might think - I know I am committing the crime and I know that killing and hurting another being is bad. In my hart I am pure and I will go to heaven straight after my death.
I am off to pray to God and then I'll follow the orders again.