The following information was added to page 104 of this thread, but I wanted it here
I'm posting this just to throw some more information into the mix (and considering how hyped and chaotic the Ukranian topic is at the moment, maybe
what I'm about to say is not needed). The following information deals with Timewave Zero and how it represents our current situation. I also want to
state that Timewave Zero and the Web-Bot Project are not associated in any way whatsoever, though on occasion dates from both programs coincide.
Perhaps they both track similar things, however that remains to be seen.
In Summary, the Timewave is a graph that tracks 'novelty,' or the 'emergence of new states of connectedness.' In other words, it
tracks the ebb and flow of changes in complexity and connectivity of the human experience (sometimes big events contribute to the changes, sometimes
many smaller events do). What's interesting is that the next 3 years have already been mapped out, and the past can be compared with now by using
matching segments on previous cycles of the graph.
So as for H1N1 and this 'new virus,' first I want to point out that both the CDC and WHO officially recognize this strain of the flu as
Novel H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu). Note the term 'novel' in the title. This is novelty
affecting humanity on a global scale, and regardless of its true virulence, this topic is on everyone's mind. People are making decisions in their
lives based on this threat, and the Timewave validates this as a heavy and relevant topic.
Second, our current placement on the graph puts us in resonance with 1811-12 and July 1942. The resonance with 1942 is a little easier to see than the
1811 one - in '42 the world faced an onslaught from many fronts, and the time was chaotic and horrible. Hunger for news of daily events forced media
to develop new means of gathering and distributing information worldwide. Then the best media groups struggled to get information out within 4 days to
a week after it occurred - today it's mere seconds. Today we also face an onslaught from every direction, and the times are hectic to say the least.
One particular aspect of the '42 resonance that horrifies me personally is that of the Holocaust .
Topics that come to mind when comparing then and now would be Medical
experiments and New methods of mass murder. The resonance has
allowed for these themes to be repeated (it was never guaranteed that they would) in the present, so it is no coincidence that there is once again
talk of 'extermination.' The Timewave seems to validate our suspicions of there being a global conspiracy to murder large numbers of people.
Less obvious is the resonance of 1811, however this relates directly to the Ukranian
situation. On Wednesday October 28, I found that we resonated precisely with June 9, 1811. On that day there was an event known as
The Great Fire of Podil which took place in Kiev, Ukraine.
The 1811 Great fire of Podil occurred on the morning of June 9, 1811 in the historical and commercial neighborhood of Podil in Kiev (Kyiv), the
capital of Ukraine. The fire lasted for three days and almost destroyed the whole neighborhood. Before the fire, the Podil was the city's most
densely populated neighborhood; out of 3,672 households in the city, 2,068 were located in the Podil.
The fire's power was strengthened with high winds and the season's severe droughts, where even the nearby Dnieper River was reported to have been
dried out. The city's official version of the cause of the fire, however, was said to be children playing with fire.
More than 2,000 homes, magistrate buildings, 12 churches, and 3 monasteries were destroyed in the fire. However, some buildings were spared
destruction, including the House of Peter I. Smoke from the fire was reported to have been seen more than 130 km (81 mi) away.
"A flu outbreak is endangering the national security of Ukraine," declared Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko in a special decree.
As a result of viral pneumonia and related problems, 53 people have already died in Western regions of the country. The number of affected is
presently estimated at 185,000.
As panic and fear grip the nation, the government in Kiev has appealed to its neighbors, including Poland, for assistance. According to some experts,
due to the current situation in Ukraine, a state of emergency in Poland cannot be ruled out as flu outbreak spreads like wildfire and
claims more lives.
~emphasis added on wildfire~
So yet another theme is repeated on the Timewave. Two resonances with matching themes can't be easily shrugged off as mere coincidence. It appears
the Ukraine is dealing with another Great Fire of Podil, only this one might have the potential to burn the world.
Also, I it found interesting that the official cause of the Great Fire of Podil was 'said to be children playing with fire.' This is the
perfect metaphor for present-day lab technicians tinkering with bio-weapons.
Below are images from the Timewave program comparing now with 1811:
Further information regarding the H1N1/Ukrainian/Timewave connection involves Joseph Moshe and his original revelation about Baxter's Ukranian lab
and the development of a biological weapon that would be released in approx. 2 months. Note the date of this article:
Joseph Moshe (MOSSAD Microbiologist): “Swine flu vaccine is bioweapon” (It's August 21) Remember the last Timewave peak? August
From the article:
Professor Moshe had called into a live radio show by Dr. A. True Ott, broadcast on Republic Broadcasting claiming to be a microbiologist who
wanted to supply evidence to a States Attorney regarding tainted H1N1 Swine flu vaccines being produced by Baxter BioPharma Solutions. He said that
Baxter’s Ukrainian lab was in fact producing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the vaccine contained an adjuvant
(additive) designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu, causing global
sickness and mass death.
Lastly, H1N1 was first considered serious by the international community on April 17, 2009 according to this
April 26th Press Release. This is the date it was
first found outside of Mexico and caught the attention of the CDC.
On April 17, 2009 the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identified two human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus in San Diego
county California. Since then 20 new cases have been identified in California, Texas, Kansas, Ohio and New York City. None of the cases have recent
contact with swine and there has been no link established between the cases except for one father and daughter.
Below is an image from the Timewave program I uploaded on March 11, 2009. The peak occurred on April 17, 2009.
The following video just found on this thread also mentions this date in relation to
novelty (along with other interesting info):
Screenshot from the video referring to the date and its relation to novelty - (occurs 3:58 - 4:28):
I want to state that the above connections weren't made by compiling random Google results to substantiate any claims (as some critics of the
Timewave assume), it's all there in the news and is likewise present on the unchanging line of the Timewave graph.
For some reason H1N1 is quite prevalent on the graph and has so far been represented almost precisely at each crucial moment, so make of it what you
I think so many people want instant gratification with their doomsday theorys and if everything doesnt go according to plan, then they become upset.
If there is any credibility to the webbot program however, I believe that this is the event that would best explain the prediction. If an October 25
date was specified, then that could mean that that was simply the day that things were set in motion...not the date of some catastrophic worldwide
Using a nursery rhyme of the plague to connect the web bot's prediction to ash death, is not going to work. It is too far removed from what is
happening. But I will grant you this. The web bot and time wave zero will be correct at least once, and that is in the year 2012, for who can deny
the novelty of that day in December, or the build up surrounding it? And since the web bot is merely a web spider taking in all the chatter about
certain subjects, and picking out the most common words concerning them, then of course, it will pick up on the year 2012. Also, the guy that
invented the time wave zero purposely ended the wave on that very day in December 2012, the 21st.
Personally, I believe the Mayans knew something about that day or time period, and I also think our Government is in on some facts that they are not
telling us about, at least not openly. So I will give the web bot credit for 2012, but as I said earlier, it simply predicts what any well informed
human being can predict, given enough resources and time. What bothers me is that these guys make people pay money for the information from these
prognosticating sites, which as time goes on and the crises at hand become more and more dire, become more and more unethical. Why withhold
information dealing with the survival of the human race just to earn a buck or two. Is my life worth ten dollars? Is yours?
Look, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm trying to convince you that these things should not be trusted. Besides, what a great way to fool the
conspiracy watchers, if one was malicious and wanted to control that part of the population, or get them to react a certain way just when you need
them to do so. And I happen to believe that there are malicious people out there ready and willing to do just that, to use these things against us.
I won't harp on all of this, I will just leave you with this warning, be careful my friends. Be very careful.
And that is your opinion. But many of us have been keeping up with the web bot, and I for one, have been amazed at their accuracy.
They also mentioned that the spiders brought back information about people dying while "bleeding out of both orifices" and the WHO announced
yeseterday that some of the more severe cases in the Ukraine (they say it isn't normal H1N1, not sure if it is H1N1 at all) are bleeding out of both
I don't have the ability to cut and paste the Data Set analysis because it is password protected, but the sets are only $10 bucks each.
I don't think charging $10 is taking advantage of people, as you say that they are. I mean really, that's cheaper than many books out there. What's
wrong with making some money off your hard work?
Plus, in addition to selling their data sets they put a lot of the stuff out there on George Ure's blog (www.urbansurvival.com) for FREE, especially
when it's really big. This year was the first year I bought their data set, and tha'ts only because they had published the other warnings for
free... for example......the crash of '08. They warned people in their blog last year about the crash of 08 before it happened and I was able to take
my money out of my 401k before I lost even more money, because I knew it would get worse.
If anyone is interested in hearing the interview with Cliff High (the head web bot guy) from yesterday, you can find all 8 section on youtube.
Since the web bot was right about the October event, I thought some of you might want to know about what they predict for 2012. Pretty
interesting/scary....it's kind of long winded, and technological, but if you can get through the first 3 sections, the later sections will blow you
away. The web bots predict a lot of the same stuff as others do....so maybe it's just another confirmation.
There is nothing about the current events in the Ukraine in the interview, but the current events in the Ukraine pale in comparison of what is about
to happen in the next few years!! If they are right again about 2012, as they have been in the past.... I say....screw it......I'm done dwelling on
I'm going to just enjoy life day to day, hope to God I don't get the flu that will supposedly sweep the globe 9 times.
Then again, maybe it's better to die from the flu than the cataclysm that is to come in 2011-2012.
Very interesting topic and special thanks to nikiano and Evasius. I've been interested in the web-bot for some time now and all of this information
is very... informative. (give me a break, it's late.)
To those naysayers who dismiss the bot, my question is how exactly did it accurately come to these conclusions:
-internal bleeding, bodies rotting from the inside
And this is exactly what is happening to people in Ukraine? Also the 25th was the day that Obama declared a State of Emergency in the US.
Um.... Helloooo? That seems like a pretty damn significant event exactly on the day Web bot made a prediction for, that coupled with the Ukraine
thing, I am very uneasy to say the least.
Nikiano, thanks for the link to HPH, some very good info over there, although I was a bit put off by what they said in closing, nothing wrong with
being prepared, but it seems like they are kind of shunting the entire metaphysical aspect of this whole process. Still, great site and thanks again
for passing it along.
Peace be among all of these, my friends and brethren.
I am English ,and from a little girl as taught by my mother the rhyme says Atishoo Atishoo,we all fall down( atishoo.meaning people sneeze with
bubonic plague)I Always assumed that meant cold or flue like symptoms
i am in texas, have many friends from alllll over texas, and louisiana, and we all know it as "ashes ashes we all fall down" i just did a quick
survey amongst the people around me...one from north texas, one from east...me from southeast...two from two different parts of lousisiana...
from a very early age i remember knowing this nursery rhyme was about the plague.
ring around the rosey...wasn't that reffering to circles people got on their face
pocket full of posies...to help against the stench of dead bodies
ashes ashes....from crematories..
we all fall down...die.
regardless of what the original makers of this rhyme may have wanted..this is synonymous with the black plague...sorry to burst your bubble.
I'm from good ole East Texas, Longview to be exact. Heard it as "ashes, ashes, we all fall down" me whole life. Always used to picture a little fat
girl singing that song next to a skinny white kid. Booyah
...Ash death would fit better with the description of a volcano going off, and/or nuclear bomb, not the plague
hey, i'm on your side #1....
next i'd point out that the webbot cult can say that ash death
might better be described as ASHE death...
evoking the memory of Arthur Ashe, tennis star...who was a man of colour.
could some spin be made out of the spelling of the word Ash-Ashe-Ach
(Ach is in Indoenesia, where many were Tsunamied back in 2004)
the possibilities are numberous- so I wouldn't waste my effort to set the cultist followers on the right way to view thingsconcerning the web-bot
There are lots of unconfirmed rumors, but there are also reports (from people here on ATS) that these patients are dying a fast death, and upon
autopsy, they are finding that their lungs are completely bloody and liquified. Some reports even used the words (in a general sense) of a pneumonic
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