Originally posted by karl 12
Any member wanting to view the video presentation in the OP has got five days to do it as it appears Google Video is shutting down on April 29th, 2011.
Google Video shuts down for good
UFOs and the US Government
DEFE 24/1958/1, p265-67 and p117, describe attempts in 1992 by MoD UFO desk officer to contact his opposite number in US via RAF Staff in Washington; he was told the US no longer had any central post or policy dealing with the subject;
Reporting UFOs - Procedures
The following documents were discovered by The Black Vault that pertain to reporting UFOs by the U.S. Military, Government and Commercial installations.
1. Air Force Instruction 10-206 [87 Pages] - Although contrary to what the Air Force wants you to believe, still on the books is the reporting procedure for UFOs. (Current revision: October 15, 2008)
2. Air Force Regulation 200-2 [8 Pages, 4.76mb] - This Regulation establishes procedures for information and evidence material pertaining to unidentified flying objects and sets forth the responsibility of Air Force activities in this regard. It applies to all Air Force Activities.
3. JANAP 146(E) [33 Pages]
4. UFOB - History of the 4602nd Air Intelligence Service Squadron, 1 Jan to 30 June 1955 [74 Pages, 3.76mb]
The military deleted a passage about unidentified flying objects from a 2008 Air Force personnel manual just days after The Huffington Post asked Pentagon officials about the purpose of the UFO section.
Before the recent revisions, the document -- Air Force Instruction 10-206 -- advised pilots, radar operators and other Air Force personnel on what to do when they encountered any unknown airborne objects. Now in the 2011 version, the reference to UFOs -- which simply means "unidentified flying objects," not necessarily spaceships with little green men -- has been eliminated.
Originally posted by mobtek
Really great thread
Originally posted by mcrom901
revelations from the uk mod...
..he was told the US no longer had any central post or policy dealing with the subject;
3. Addressees for CIRVIS Reports. Timeliness is paramount in CIRVIS reporting. Therefore, observers should transmit these reports as soon as possible. FLASH precedence is authorized. Reports should be transmitted to any available United States or Canadian military or civil air / ground communications facility. That facility will rapidly process the reports as prescribed by JANAP 146 directives, and add the addressees as given below.
a. If the sighting is in an oversea area, the addressees will be:
(1) CSAF (1st line of text For: AFXOPX)
(4) As prescribed by area commanders. Normally, the addressees are the operating service commands concerned.
b. If the sighting is within the North American continent or within waters bordering the North American continent (Atlantic Ocean to territorial limits of Europe; Pacific Ocean to the territorial limits of Hawaii), the addressees will be:
(1) The commander of the nearest NORAD organization or Air Defense Command Unit.
(4) CSAF (1st line of text For: AFXOPX)
(5) FTD WPAFB OHIO
(8) The appropriate Maritime Commander in command:
(9) The appropriate Sea Frontier Command:
(10) The appropriate Antisubmarine Force Commander:
(11) The operating service commands of an overseas area will be added as addressees if the direction of travel of the object is toward an oversea area.
Originally posted by mcrom901
reply to post by karl 12
thanks matey, indeed, couldn't agree more... though it's funny that the ufo records, despite not having any 'defense significance', are a matter of "national security"...
In 1977 New York attorney Peter A. Gersten brought suit in the US District Court of the District of Columbia on behalf of Ground Saucer Watch, an Arizona based UFO organization. The lawsuit was against the Central Intelligence Agency pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act. Gersten demanded the release of classified UFO related documents. Pursuant to the lawsuit, the CIA in 1979 released over 900 pages of documents relating to the UFO phenomenon. But they refused to release 57 documents, claiming national security considerations.
On June 24,1980 Gersten brought suit in the same District Court against the National Security Agency but this time on behalf of his own recently formed organization, Citizens Against UFO Secrecy (CAUS). His objective was 135 UFO related documents the NCI had refused to release. On November 18, 1980, based upon a NSA top secret affidavit which Gersten was not allowed to see, US District Court Judge Gerhard A. Gesell dismissed the lawsuit stating that 'the continued need for secrecy far out weighed the public's right to know.'
John Greenewald, Jr. presents a Department of the Air Force letter (dated 1 May 1997) regarding the 13 March 1997 Phoenix, Arizona UFO case
Originally posted by ChakaBoy
Great thread! I only have one question though, where are all the debunkers? Hmmmm