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posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by JFrickenK

Posted by Tino
Correct, as per 757-200SF manual. Even though the SF models do not have cabin doors


You may want to look at AMM 52__025 page page 387 (202) 52-32-00 before spreading any more disinformation.


JFK,

To be fair, Tino got that from me in one of our email conversations. I got it from someone here on this thread. I'm not going to bother searching for it and will take full responsibility for the above information. But i also didnt go parroting it on the web without cross checking it. It was in an email.

Someone here mentioned Freighters dont have cockpit doors (i assume Tino meant cockpit as clearly an aircraft will have cabin doors), it seemed reasonable. So i told Tino that the manual he was studying was moot after i searched for the type.

Either way, the manual is moot as its not from American Airlines, nor is it of a 757-223.

I also initially thought it was a 757-200SP manual which Tino, me and Ralph talked about... until i looked closer at the Cover page. Its SF. So i made that correction as well via email.

Dont expect Tino to come through on his promise.

[edit on 4-12-2009 by R_Mackey]



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by JFrickenK
BTW, I held up my part, will you follow through with your 2 promises by PM ?

I didn't think so.
[edit on 4-12-2009 by JFrickenK]


Look who showed up. They are coming out of the woodwork now, like cockroaches, which is about the best and most accurate characterization I can think of for this particular LCF mod.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by JFrickenK

You may want to look at AMM 52__025 page page 387 (202) 52-32-00 before spreading any more disinformation.

Also had you spent any time at all studying that you would realize that those aircraft were converted from passenger aircraft and that was completed 26 January 2004.


Right. 9.11 happened in 01. We need to get documentation to show
the conversion/connection of FLT_DECK DOOR for "AA77".

I realize that we're discussing two different model aircraft, but your
boss Robbie was the one spreading the disinfo. It's a few pages
back, feel free to read. It's a true testament to his research skills.
I guess I should have known better than to listen to him!




Oops, too late with the disinfo...

Perhaps you should have done a search for FDAU in SMM 34__015 prior to spouting off about which you know nothing.


I did a search for FDAU; many hits. What is it that I'm supposed to look for? What is it that I suddenly know nothing about after being such a hero
on "the other forum"?


BTW, I held up my part, will you follow through with your 2 promises by PM ? I didn't think so.


Ummm...kinda hard to do when Robbie locked my access from the forum.

Actually, after his childish attitude, I don't think I'll be contributing to P4T
especially now that he's withholding my posts and wanting to post them
again.

Let it be known that I have given money to P4T and other organizations.
I am a man of my word when there is reciprocation. I can post screen
shots of paypal transactions if you like Robbie? Just remember, I don't
survive off of DVD sales...so don't F'n go there you POS.

Tell you what Rob and JFK:

If Robbie wants to go against my wishes and post my threads on his
forum, I'll be sure to upload all private data including your 757 manual.
I will also give out private member information, and anything else I can
think of.

I DO NOT GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO REINSTATE MY POSTS.

You post my stuff, I'll post yours.

It works both ways Robbie. You respect my wishes. I respect yours.

[edit on 4-12-2009 by turbofan]



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by turbofan
If Robbie wants to go against my wishes and post my threads on his
forum, I'll be sure to upload all private data including your 757 manual.
I will also give out private member information, and anything else I can
think of.


Tino Desideri (i use your name because you have stated everyone knows "turbofan" as Tino Desideri which was in your sig at our forum), the manual clearly states on the front cover it is proprietary and confidential. Feel free Tino Desideri, to upload it to the web.


lol... idiot.


I DO NOT GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO REINSTATE MY POSTS.


Tino, my address can be found in the FAA database. Post whaever you want. Your posts will be reinstated as per forum rules. We dont delete posts.

ATS may ban you if you post any private information. Be careful. I also have the number to their legal dept. Spoke to their Attorney myself awhile back. Nice guy.


[edit on 4-12-2009 by R_Mackey]



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:52 AM
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I don't expect him to come through with his promise Rob, I picked up on that from the tone of his second PM to me regarding the subject... Which was after he had already downloaded the manuals and not the other.

It literally took me months of studying that manual to come to any conclusion whatsoever and here he is less than 24 hours later proclaiming to be an authority of what all it contains and frankly that pisses me off...

We are talking tens if not hundreds of thousands of pages which comprise those manuals.

And frankly had it not been for your halfheartedly joking post about Tino being interested in the diagrams he would NOT be in possession of it now.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by JFrickenK
I don't expect him to come through with his promise Rob, I picked up on that from the tone of his second PM to me regarding the subject... Which was after he had already downloaded the manuals and not the other.


JFK, dont worry my friend. I'll uphold Tino's broken promises if it is what i think it is.

Just PM me with what he sent as a promise and i'll handle it.




posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:53 AM
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Take me to court Robbie...I'll be sure to let them know you have documentation
you're not supposed to have and you're distributing it.

I wish I never met you, you are such a child. My posts are already deleted,
and we made a pact over e-mail/chat. You are spineless.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by turbofanI'll be sure to upload all private data including your 757 manual.


Do it Tino. I #ing dare you.

And when you do I will personally make sure Boeings legal team is all over you pathetic childish ass for distributing propriatary confidential and copyrighted information.

That is no threat, it is a promise.

It is information which I DO NOT want to see in the hands of any potential terrorists.

Edit to add - from the thtreat which you made I may be too late, as you are no better than a terrorist... Threatening to aid and abet them.

[edit on 4-12-2009 by JFrickenK]



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 09:59 AM
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Just point me to a page that you want to discuss and we'll see how "little" I know.

Just a few days ago, I was the 'tech god' over 'there'.

Sorry JFK, if you can't understand why I don't want to associate with
you, or your boss...well, I have nothing more to say...just look at what
you're dealing with.

I'll have you know I clicked your donate button. It's an all white background
with a centered yellow, "donate" button.

I told you why I couldn't process the amount, and I was needing a
password from my wife's account as I no longer have access to credit
cards due to a business venture gone bankrupt.

So yes, I did click it and I had every intention of paying you. Now,
I can't say I'm too comfortable keeping a promise when certain others cannot. I hope you understand.

[edit on 4-12-2009 by turbofan]



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:01 AM
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It is information which I DO NOT want to see in the hands of any potential terrorists.


It's all up to Rob now. If he pulls the trigger, I'll press the upload button.

Real simple. I don't think Boeing is going to like the fact that Rob has
access to certain material and giving it out.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by turbofan
Let it be known that I have given money to P4T and other organizations.
I am a man of my word when there is reciprocation. I can post screen
shots of paypal transactions if you like Robbie? Just remember, I don't
survive off of DVD sales...so don't F'n go there you POS.



Tino,

I just saw this edit from you.

Not sure what the rules are at ATS to post financial transactions...lol But i dont think it will last long here.

Number 2. You have no clue as to how i make my living. Sure, last year i was bouncing all over the place. That is no secret Tino. I have a great video of it which i posted publicly.

DVD sales during that time were mostly given to you for RENT!

Remember Tino? we worked on the North Flight Path together, you let me post under your name here and at JREF?

Surely you remember.

Hmmm.. perhaps Tino wont mind if i give out his preferred passwords?

Im sure they're changed by the time Tino reads this sentence. But, who knows. People can try it for access to his other accounts i suppose.

Dont worry Tino. Im not a blackmailer with empty threats. I wont give out your passwords.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by JFrickenK

Originally posted by turbofanI'll be sure to upload all private data including your 757 manual.


Do it Tino. I #ing dare you.

And when you do I will personally make sure Boeings legal team is all over you pathetic childish ass for distributing propriatary confidential and copyrighted information.

That is no threat, it is a promise.

It is information which I DO NOT want to see in the hands of any potential terrorists.

Edit to add - from the thtreat which you made I may be too late, as you are no better than a terrorist... Threatening to aid and abet them.

[edit on 4-12-2009 by JFrickenK]


JFK, i wouldnt worry about it.

I dont know many websites or servers which will host confidential informatin to the public. And Tino is Bankrupt, so he doesnt have the cash to host his own.

And even if he did. How exactly will he get any traffic? No one will host a link to confidential information.

Although it will be fun to watch Tino try....lol



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by turbofan
Just a few days ago, I was the 'tech god' over 'there'.


Not in my eyes, and you have proven to me here that you never will be with your childish antics.

Go ahead and post the manual, and suffer the consequences.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:07 AM
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I think 'reheat's' posting the fact that Warren Stutt has conducted a thorough AAl 77 FDR decode puts to bed any of the earlier, now shown to be unwarranted, claims regarding the AAL 77 FDR.

Looks like the case is finally closed on this one.

Certainly some enterprising computer software/graphics person will be able to produce a more refined visual representation of the data, for all to see.

I am looking forward to that.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by turbofan

It is information which I DO NOT want to see in the hands of any potential terrorists.


It's all up to Rob now. If he pulls the trigger, I'll press the upload button.

Real simple. I don't think Boeing is going to like the fact that Rob has
access to certain material and giving it out.


Perhaps I should call the FBI right now so they can have time to coordinate with their canook counterparts.

( looks up number )



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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No, I'm not bankrupt you idiot...my business went bankrupt.

I still have my business site, and FTP server.

Kinda tough to own two cars (over $50K), and have cash in a bank account when you
are in personal bankruptcy


Maybe you should try accessing my web site some time, and check out
some of the new deals happening this month. Did I tell you, I'm still
in business?


[edit on 4-12-2009 by turbofan]



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:14 AM
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Go ahead, be sure to tell them about Rob's documentation stash too!

Will you tell them you gave me your manual while you're at it?


I think Rob's stupidity is starting to rub off...



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by turbofan
If Robbie wants to go against my wishes and post my threads on his
forum, I'll be sure to upload all private data including your 757 manual.
I will also give out private member information, and anything else I can
think of.



The above reported to all ATS mods and Admins.

Good luck getting ATS to host your empty threats Tino.

lol



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by turbofan
Go ahead, be sure to tell them about Rob's documentation stash too!

Will you tell them you gave me your manual while you're at it?


I think Rob's stupidity is starting to rub off...


Tino, here is my "documentation stash" which is proprietary.

pilotsfor911truth.org...

Its been up for more than 2 years.

Matter of fact. I told American Legal dept i was gonig to publish it.

Have a great recording of it...

lol



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:20 AM
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