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Here’s a telling anecdote, it’s all I have to offer you on the subject: In the mid-90s I had the occasion to ask Timothy Leary what he thought about Terence McKenna’s theories about 2012. He sat up in his chair—he was in horrible shape at this point, I should say—fixed his gaze upon me and wagging a finger in my face, sternly told me,
“Terence McKenna is a High Episcopalian!
He was raised to believe in the end of the world in church on Sundays. There is NO SCIENCE to any of this.
He took psychedelic drugs and he interpreted those experiences via his own nervous system, which was pre-disposed to want to believe in the end of the world in the first place due to childhood imprinting about the Book of Revelations!
If you believe in these things, why not just become a Christian and then at least you’ll be in the mainstream!”
If you buy into this stuff, you need to ask yourself WHY that is. Is it residual Christianity that you thought you shook off, but didn’t? It’s a valid point
Originally posted by Skyfloating
The 2012 Phenomenon is a mix of doomsday-prophecies or new-age-prophecies, depending on perspective. For me its nothing more than a mass-delusion. I say this not from the viewpoint of a Skeptic but from the viewpoint of a believer in spiritual realities...spiritual realities which the 2012-movement denigrates.
The 2012 movement was developed in the 1970s by Jose Arguelles. The authorized biography of Arguelles portrays a man who suffered phases of depression, hatred of society and was drugged out of his mind on psychedelic substances for most of his life. It was in drugged states that he had most of his "visions" on mayan calendars.
It was also supported by the late Terence McKenna, another promoter of the "psychedelic revolution".
David Icke too had Ayahuasca "visions" of 2012 and began promoting it.
It is also promoted by crowds of extremely narcissistic people claiming to be "star children" or "indigo children".
These people rant on about how special and enlightened the mayans were, when in fact...
The Maya practiced human sacrifice. In some Maya rituals people were killed by having their arms and legs held while a priest cut the person's chest open and tore out his heart as an offering. This is depicted on ancient objects such as pictorial texts, known as codices. It is believed that children were often offered as sacrificial victims because they were believed to be pure
Any person of some metaphysical sophistication understands that time itself is in perpetual fluctuation, that what the Future is and is not changes with every breathe each human takes. Trying to pinpoint an exact date for a future event is a folly because time is flexible and human-made-dates are arbitrary.
Neither are Arguelles delusions actually based on the Mayan Calendar...not to mention the Buddhist Calender, Hindu Calendar, Jewish Calender or any other spiritual time-line.
You will not find a single 2012-follower that can explain how and where exactly the "Mayan Calendar" ends in 2012. Nor will you find ANY indication whatsoever of the following associated claims:
* The Hopi Calender makes no mention of 2012
* Nostradamus makes no mention of 2012
* The Book of Revelation makes no mention of 2012
* The Collision of the planet "Nibiru" with earth was originally predicted for the year 2003. Marketing-tricksters have only recently changed that to 2012 in order to match the mass-hysteria.
If these "hints" arent enough, consider the following:
- The 2012 movement only gained momentum after nothing spectacular happened in the year 2000. Neither did the world come to an end in other widely publicised doomsday and new-age dates: 1900, 1950, 1988, etc.
- There is no reason to dismiss all other calendars in the world which do not end 2012.
- According to ancient Hindu teachings concerning the "Kali Yuga" the "new age" will not happen on a specific date but be spread out over hundreds of years. Actually the industrial revolution and the Internet Revolution of the late 80s are already sufficient indicators of a "new age" having happened.
- The amount of cheap gimmicks and products sold to the gullible, such as survival packs, protection sprays, "ascension robes" star-child-make-up and other such nonsense are evidence of the type of dumbed-down crowd being catered to here.
Psychosis (from the Greek ψυχή "psyche", for mind or soul, and -ωσις "-osis", for abnormal condition), with adjective psychotic, literally means abnormal condition of the mind, and is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality".
People suffering from psychosis are said to be psychotic. People experiencing psychosis may report hallucinations or delusional belief
[edit on 22-10-2009 by UpNAway321]
...to be honest the thing im most worried about is something called the "Dark Rift". Wether you want to believe it or not. The solstice and galactic alignment are going to come into play. The last time this solstice and galactic alignment occurred was 26,000 years ago.
The most recent period of glaciation, which many people think of as the "Ice Age", was at its height approximately 20,000 years ago/
Originally posted by onewhoknowstruth
"Nothing will happen, it's just silly!"
I think a lot of people don't actually EDUCATE themselves on the topic. They rather look at it, laugh and walk away. Considering the Mayans, Egyptians, Hopi Indians, Nostradamus, Aztecs, and even the bible code predict something will happen......corrected me if i'm wrong here....that's a little bittoo much to be sheer coincidence.