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I dont want to argue with you guys anymore. I see that the majority insists that its 2012, so its 2012. New threads promoting it appear daily.
This is a friendy goodbye from this thread.
Originally posted by ET_MAN
I think you should carry on with the thread you started but that's just my opinion of course your free to do whatever you choose!
And maybe on 12-22-12 he will be right here laughing and mocking us...
Originally posted by ET_MAN
I know 100% certainty of this event and will not hold back in telling everyone. The "Evidence/Facts and Proof on a certain level" can be found for one who diligently seeks it.
NOTHING you say, no matter your knowledge or convictions, will be able to offer us normal 3rd dimensional humans undeniable proof.
Originally posted by sciencenewby
the ancients cant predict the end of the world.
we know more than our ancient ancestors. hence why we have technology.
we have more brainpower... we dont sacrafice people/animals so it will rain tomorrow.
...We currently are in the final years of the 13th baktun, or as the ancients said, oxlahun pik. --- that some investigators refer to as the “Great Cycle.” ... The close of this immense period of time is now rapidly approaching.
I confess that when I first began to hear about the 2012 date, I couldn’t help but smile at some of the outrageous claims and outlandish speculation coming from a few of my fellow New Age spiritual seekers...((some of my fellow New Agers describe Maya as highly evolved spiritual messengers from a distant constellation. These extraterrestrial Maya come, it is said, to guide an increasingly disoriented humanity at this time of unprecedented socio-environmental crisis.))
However, as I’ve delved deeper into the subject and learned from wiser souls, I now find myself far less inclined to dismiss the 2012 phenomenon as I once did, as merely baseless assertions fed by media hype. I was genuinely amazed to learn, for example, that Maya astronomers were so brilliant that they apparently had the capability to set up their 13 pik cycle of 1,872,000 days with a zero date on a solar zenith passage over five thousand years ago and project accurately ahead to a closing date on a winter solstice in 2012, ,
Maya have described human evolution in terms of our advancement through sequential world ages. According to Maya mythology, each age’s stage of humanity was mercilessly terminated by divinely inspired catastrophes before a more evolved and properly respectful being could be created.
In Maya myth, the creator beings’ previous experiments in making proper human beings failed due to people’s lack of capacity for reverence..
So when people ask me, “What will happen in 2012?,” no clear answer arises. Could it be that ancient Maya were aware of dimensions of the human experience that we moderns can no longer even imagine due to the culturally specific blinders we’ve grown accustomed to wearing? ? Might there actually be spiritual entities who are taking this opportunity to facilitate a collective enhancement of human awareness?
Our current best “scientific” guess is that we are hurling at incalculable speeds through incomprehensively vast space with but a glimmer of knowledge as to who we are or where we are going. In this limitless all-directional cosmic context, we humans are ill-prepared for saying much definitive about very much at all, much less about such extraordinarily esoteric concepts as world ages and the evolution of consciousness.
Instead of solid answers, more questions arise.
Might the recent “return” of the Long Count calendar into human awareness, after an absence of many centuries, be an archetypal alarm clock ringing in from the collective unconscious?
Might personal mythologies about the Maya and 2012 developed by New Age mystics take on a life of their own and coalesce into real change on a societal scale through processes of self-fulfilling prophecy?
Is 2012 merely an ingenious New Age marketing scheme or is it a subtle tipping point in humanity’s collective consciousness towards heightened spiritual illumination? I really don’t know.
...it must also be pointed out that little content in the 2012 phenomenon has much substantive basis in the Maya world. Apart from the recent publication by Maya novelist Gaspar González on 2012, nearly all writings on the subject of 2012 have been written by non-Maya who have little experiential familiarity with the Maya world..
Robert Sitler's first exposure to the genius of Maya culture came in 1976 while hiking in the rainforests of Chiapas. Since then, he has spent as much time as possible in the Maya world, visiting regularly among natives from more than a dozen language groups. He is currently director of the Latin American Studies Program at Stetson Univeristy in DeLand, Florida.
NASA Study Suggests Giant Space Clouds Iced Earth Eons ago, giant clouds in space may have led to global extinctions, according to two recent technical papers supported by NASA’s Astrobiology Institute.
One paper outlines a rare scenario in which Earth iced over during snowball glaciations, after the solar system passed through dense space clouds. In a more likely scenario, less dense giant molecular clouds may have enabled charged particles to enter Earths atmosphere, leading to destruction of much of the planets protective ozone layer. This resulted in global extinctions, according to the second paper. Both recently appeared in the Geophysical Research Letters.
“Computer models show dramatic climate change can be caused by interstellar dust accumulating in Earth’s atmosphere during the solar system’s immersion into a dense space cloud,” said Alex Pavlov, principal author of the two papers. He is a scientist at the University of Colorado, Boulder. The resulting dust layer hovering over the Earth would absorb and scatter solar radiation, yet allow heat to escape from the planet into space, causing runaway ice buildup and snowball glaciations.
ESA sees stardust storms heading for Solar System
Date Released: Monday, August 18, 2003
Source: Artemis Society
Until ten years ago, most astronomers did not believe stardust could enter our Solar System. Then ESA's Ulysses spaceprobe discovered minute stardust particles leaking through the Sun's magnetic shield, into the realm of Earth and the other planets. Now, the same spaceprobe has shown that a flood of dusty particles is heading our way.
What is surprising in this new Ulysses discovery is that the amount of stardust has continued to increase even after the solar activity calmed down and the magnetic field resumed its ordered shape in 2001.
Scientists believe that this is due to the way in which the polarity changed during solar maximum. Instead of reversing completely, flipping north to south, the Sun's magnetic poles have only rotated at halfway and are now more or less lying sideways along the Sun's equator. This weaker configuration of the magnetic shield is letting in two to three times more stardust than at the end of the 1990s. Moreover, this influx could increase by as much as ten times until the end of the current solar cycle in 2012.
Like a wounded Starship Enterprise, our solar system's natural shields are faltering, letting in a flood of cosmic rays. The sun's recent listlessness is resulting in record-high radiation levels that pose a hazard to both human and robotic space missions.
Galactic cosmic rays are speeding charged particles that include protons and heavier atomic nuclei. They come from outside the solar system, though their exact sources are still being debated.
Originally posted by Copernicus
You will be proven wrong within a few years. Remember this thread.
Originally posted by TheIrvy
But are you prepared for what it means if it's not proven wrong?
I believe we will move on to a global corrupted government where people are afraid to speak their mind if nothing happens in 2012. Its simply the direction we are heading.
Originally posted by TheIrvy
It's not that long ago that your forecast of what you think will come would have been regarded as just an outlandish and preposterous idea as the etheric "something" that people expect in or around 2012.