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Originally posted by clandestiny
Man, that was a mouthful wasn’t it? I’ll be back later after taking a break and doing some exercise.
Originally posted by Hazelnut
Originally posted by toddtenexpa
reply to post by clandestiny
You have my attention clandestiny. Very intriguing post. I have my own theories about the food we eat having ingredients there are added for alternative reasons.
Could you possibly be referring to something like the bag of Green Giant Peaches I bought 2 weeks ago which were hard as rocks that are still attempting to ripen in the fruit drawer of my fridge? Something is wrong with those peaches. Normal peaches would have turned soft and brown within 5 days. These peaches are still rock-hard and have little to no flavor. I ate one 3 days ago and another one today. The rest in the bag are still preserved in their pre-ripened stage. Is that normal? Or is their condition due to chemical intervention?
Originally posted by StonyJ
So we're being poisoned, starved AND having our climate manipulated?
All of this is being controlled by descendants of Jesus Christ or the "House of David"?
Is this the gist of your truth so far?
[edit on 10/6/09 by StonyJ]
Although if it was assumed that this plan was created by God, it’s theorist would have been mistaken, unless they knew God to be a man, or group of men, descended, or alleging to descend from, Jesus Christ, which are my ancestors.
Algae that can turn carbon dioxide back into fossil fuel - it sounds too good to be true. How is this going to work? Algae use carbon dioxide to generate a number of oil molecules, via photosynthesis, as a way of storing energy. People have been trying to make them overproduce the oil and store it. We're changing the algae's gene structure to get them to produce hydrocarbons similar to those that come out of the ground and to trick them into pumping these hydrocarbons out instead of accumulating them. As other groups get CO2 sequestration techniques going, we'd like to take that CO2 and get the algae to convert it back into oil. The aim is to prevent it from further increasing carbon in the atmosphere. How do you get from algae oil to oil you can put in a car or jet engine? The next stage is to take the algae's biocrude, put it into Exxon Mobil's existing refineries, and try to make the same products that you get from oil that comes out of the ground. So the goal is to make gasoline, diesel fuel and jet fuel out of the same hydrocarbons we use now - just from a different source. Instead of pulling the carbon out of the ground we're pulling it out of the atmosphere. How soon do you think that can happen? There have been a lot of announcements from small demonstration projects claiming they're going to have major new fuels in one or two years. Our aim is to have a real and significant impact on the billions of gallons that are consumed worldwide. Materials used to make a vast range of products - clothing, carpets, medicines, plastics - come from oil. The goal is to try and replace as many of these as possible. The expectation is that doing it on this scale will take five to 10 years. So will Exxon be producing nothing but algal power in 10 years' time? I think that's highly unlikely. The real test is going to be how simply this can be produced so it can compete with oil prices. The challenge is not just doing it but doing it in a cost-effective fashion. What makes you think that you, unlike anyone else, can do this? Well, we've had some breakthroughs in terms of getting the algae to secrete pure lipids [oils] but I think the real trick is the partnership that we have - the financial resources we now have available to us and the engineering and oil-processing skills of Exxon. Exxon has a poor reputation on climate-change issues. Won't partnering with them damage the project's green credentials? Quite the opposite. I think the fact that the largest company in the world has gone in this direction after several years of study is good for all of us. I've said many times this change can't happen without the oil industry. They have a reputation for studying things for quite a while and acting in a large fashion once they become convinced of an approach. I don't see how it can be bad news if somebody makes a major change in direction for the benefit of the planet
Originally posted by clandestiny
MTBE and ethanol can act as fuels, of course. But even in engines designed for gasoline, that have been being engineered for that purpose for over a hundred years, are still only around 20 percent efficient, meaning we waste 80 percent of the potential power in gasoline.
MTBE and ethanol (anhydrous ethanol) need high compression ratios to combust. Most engines these days have low compressions and have never been ported so even gasoline won't burn efficiently in them Gasoline and MTBE/ethanol are called oxygenates and are totally different than gasoline. Its like the difference between diesel and gasoline, you can't just run them in engines they are not designed to run in.
But really oxygenates were designed not to burn so as to cause excessive levels of volatile organic compounds to mix with nitrogen oxides smog causing a photochemical reaction in the suns rays that got rid of the smog while making air quality worse for the environment and our health. This not only helped set the stage for the end run to take over the world but made the same people doing it enough money to cover their plan through selling medical related products and services to all the people their oxygenates program was miking sick, all this while claiming oxygenates are good for air quality because as long as most people don't see pollution, they believe the air they were breathing is safer.
Something is wrong with those peaches. Normal peaches would have turned soft and brown within 5 days. These peaches are still rock-hard and have little to no flavor. I ate one 3 days ago and another one today. The rest in the bag are still preserved in their pre-ripened stage. Is that normal? Or is their condition due to chemical intervention?