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Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by CaptainAmerica2012
Originally ATS was very anti-911truth, so really you are playing in others sandbox who were here before you. We did not come here to harass you guys, its actually quite the opposite. I'll tell you the truth in what happened.
Before Catherders infamous thread, there was an even older thread about 911. Back in those days you had several very sharp skeptics, some aviation folks, and even one of the site owners (who had a relative at the pentagon that day) who pretty much took the theories apart. Then came the Catherder (who I always suspected was the same site admin, though I cannot prove it) thread. ATS was obviously cutting into someones 911-truth sales, and suddenly that thread started to get spammed by tons of pro-911 truthers. This went on for quite awhile, until Lear showed up. At that point, the admin, who were obviously aware of the hits being generated by the topic, and were in negotiations to incorporate, backed off their stance on the subject.
I even had a U2U showing how they were aware of Johns flip-flopping on the subject on another board. On that board John not only stated how easily that it could have been done, but also gave a step-by-step of exactly how. This came up the same time that I was picking apart that john could not answer basic aviation questions I posed to him on the board. I was politely asked to back off on him because they thought something was odd.
….But you see...
conspiracy theories sell, not facts!
John brought an even bigger following, and generated more hits with his antics.
So the hard, cold, truth is that I cannot come to this site now (fracken 8 years later), to read things I actually have an interest in, without getting smacked in the face by the 911-truth cult on the “Recent Posts” page... And let me tell you the majority of people in general, as well as the majority of aviation professionals do not agree with the truth movement (heck truthers cannot even agree with each other). ATS was always a site with tough skeptics, hence the “Deny Ignorance” tag, you guys invaded our turf, not the other way around...
And that my friend is the “Truth”...
Originally posted by defcon5
By the way another thing that torques me about truthers is that they still cannot figure out that its against ATS T&C to repost entire other posts. I think that speaks volumes of some skill attribute that is lacking (INT).
To fly, fight and win ... in air, space and cyberspace.
Originally posted by Threadfall
I always have to laugh at these questions, no matter how sincere they might be. It's basically saying, go away opposing points of view; you make me insecure and angry!
The majority of people STILL do not believe in the truth movement,
the majority of aviation professionals similarly STILL do not believe in the truth movement.
If there was any truth to the truth movement you'd have hundreds of thousands of aviation professionals joining 911 Pilots for Truth,
By the way another thing that torques me about truthers is that they still cannot figure out that its against ATS T&C to repost entire other posts.
Oh, and Pilots for Truth are the only group I know about like that.
I got over this many years ago, and could really care less.
Originally posted by looofo
The smartest post on this forum are from skeptics.
It is simple to forge new theories and conspiracies. It is a lot more harder to prove they are wrong.