posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 11:58 AM
This OP is a good point and the elephant in the room -- so to speak.
But there are other reasons that people hang out and refute things, that go beyond being a paid blogger. I might not like Obama 100%, because I think
he is a decent Republican (and I was wanting a Democrat), and someone else, who was happy with George Bush wiping the floor with the Constitution,
thinks he is a Socialist.
So when the dozen or so threads about Obama being a Kenyan come up -- I feel I've got to defend a last patch of Democracy and say; "You guys are
It isn't that I want to, or enjoy it, it's that I remember when George Bush supporters called everyone traitors who dared to question his judgement
that there were WMDs, Saddam was connected to 9/11, or that "we don't do torture." I saw what happens if we don't stand up to bullies, even if
they just discuss amongst themselves.
>> I am a "Truther" as opposed to an "Anti-truther" or a "Gov'ment BS believer." I didn't want to be. I suppose that some nay-sayers are here,
to defend the last paradigm left for society.
But just on odds alone -- if the Bush administration was proven liars on everything they ever said, and we merely have the last two topics of Election
Fraud, and they helped make 9/11 possible -- what are the chances that they didn't also lie about their involvement in the last two unproven lies
that helped them a lot with the acquisition of power?
>> Now we have slightly more sophisticated stories, explaining what happened. Plausible shrugging about inaction as "it was bureaucracy." As if the
solution were; let's have less. It's like saying; "the government didn't protects us from corporate polluters at the FDA and failed to test
Chinese toys for lead paint -- so let's have less FDA." No, let's find us the rat-bastard who made sure a $10 test wasn't conducted on painted
toys in 8 years and is probably making a 7-figure consulting fee for a Toy importer.
In other news, Dennis Hastert is making a 7-figure consulting fee with a Turkish company, for all his loyal help while he was in government.
The problem is corruption. If you just say; "well, these things happen." It lets the criminals off the hook.
>> The excuse is always made, that you couldn't get so many people in on a crime and keep them quiet, and such a thing couldn't be orchestrated.
I'm going to outline how I see the world and how common corruption could make relatively decent people, unwitting participants in great betrayal; the
CIA and the Bush family (not innocent or decent), and the Neuvo-rich from war contracts Dick Cheney, have a working relationship -- long-time love
Most people think of the CIA as a data collection group -- and it is true, that groups like Brewster Jennings, were doing work to make us safe. The
corp-gov CIA however, compromises politicos in other countries as highlighted in the book; "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man." Presidente likes
Unions and country's autonomy and wants a minimum wage -- Presidente dies in small plane crash. New candidate gets money and CIA-love interest, sees
things our way. Military ends up being staffed at the top with people trained at our lovely "School of the Americas." Politico continues to see
things our way, or is outed in a scandalous affair or falls out of the sky in a small/large plane accident -- you get the picture. Hugo Chavez, not an
example of the perfect many, had two proven attempts by these "Jackals" -- so this isn't idle speculation. CIA no likely man who takes from
corporate friends and gives to people.
Well don't feel bad -- it appears that according to FBI translator turned whistle-blower, Sibel Edmonds, Turkey was busy doing the same to our
politicos. The fact that our justice department, media, and political bureaucracy seemed to collectively yawn and ignore her well documented and FBI
corroborated deposition should indicate either or both of two things; this is the status quo, and/or, the people in charge are all compromised. If you
have reading comprehension, it means that I said kind of the same thing twice.
People in the media have kids in Day Care with the Washington politicians they cover. They lose access and the key to the washroom if they go beyond
giving a hard time to anyone who hasn't been thrown to the wolves. Two Florida Newspapers covered up a certain senators preference for Pages for 5
years. This is just what happens when you mingle and enjoy parties and a large paycheck from a media outlet that has connections to the same companies
But when you have people who cover up for working for foreign government's -- then it's likely they are compromised too.
See, only a crook isn't worried when he hears his company is compromised by the mob.
>> When we string together other seemingly unrelated stories; The CIA and HS involved with Poker and Prostitutes at the Watergate Hotel. Death of the
DC Madame. Alaskan Oil regulators having orgies and crack with the Oil company lobbyists they had oversight on; they weren't "in bed" with them --
they were straddling them on very expensive mahogany office furniture.
So Saudi Arabia, the Mossad, Turkey, China,... they are all compromising as many politicos, leaders and media pundits as they can get their hands on;
there is probably a waiting list lined up around the block for money to cover gambling, sexual perversions, drug habits -- any weakness. We'd be
stopping this, if it weren't the "working in the shadows" mentality, that we adopted at the top long ago.
I'm thinking, shortly after Al Capone, and Bobby Kennedy's unfortunate accident for being too rough on the mob, the CIA and the drug trafficking
merged. And you can see the connection in the Carlysle Group board of directors, and maybe in a few think tanks and another head of this hydra on
>> So we have this situation, where everybody keeps the down-low on corruption, because if you whine about Turkey owning Denny Hastert, then you have
to point out the school kids that Lieberman likes provided by the Mossad (I don't really know about that last bit -- it's just a queasy feeling I
get looking at the man and his loyalties).
9/11 was convenient to deal with the lack of demand in business, the collapse of the tech sector stocks, and to create a public works program, that
entailed checking the shoes of old ladies at airports, rather than actually building things (that, of course, would be too much like FDR socialism for
the Neocons involved). The Security business, picked up the slack for all those jobs that Globalization lost us in the name of efficiency and
So when the head of security at the FAA gets a call and is told to destroy the records of calls after 9/11 -- he isn't thinking about Bin Laden,
he's thinking about that great weekend he had with all his powerful friends on the Mariannas Islands doing all the things he's ever dreamed about
(just as a for instance, again, I don't know anything). He has a nice position and un-questioned fun money, and he does a few favors now and then.
>> A lot of compromised people, doing a lot of little things that they feel guilty about. When it comes time to investigate -- EVERYONE has a guilty
conscience -- because they've been doing favors for God knows who, without questioning WHY for years. Why was George Bush supported so well by the
Senate and Congress when they all suspected he was either a fool or crook? Because he was a bigger crook than them. The justice department stopped
looking at white collar crime or un-do influence of foreign governments or conflicts of interest. The only crime being prosecuted was disloyalty to
the Bush mob.
Then Obama takes over the reigns, and FIRST THING, has to re-assure the CIA that we need to move on and not investigate anything. Because Obama wants
to stay healthy, and maybe make a few reforms without making too many waves. He probably has little choice.