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Phoenix: Dozens of armed citizens attend todays Obama Speech

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posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 02:33 AM
reply to post by googolplex

Bringing in foreigners would be the single best way to Unite the American people and make them willing to fight...

There's hardly a person alive who wouldn't go resistance at that point, no matter what the scenario, our patriotism frightens most of the world...

I'm not arguing with it, nor saying there aren't those who are convinced we are sheep enough...

But we are SHEEP because of OUR COMFORT

They already have us... Eugenics via divorce and abortion, Slavery via Greed...

Because we are sooooooo Comfortable...

If the comfort ends we will unite and rise...ALL of us... they aren't stupid...

They have us already where they want us, if we get MAD they give in, that's the game here...the real game...

An American style insurrection is the last thing they want... our infrastructure is fragile...

Their global power based on the Military with no real economic back bone...

The methods are deception and conformity and comfort... not bombs...

If something makes us angry they will NOT do it... we still have the power, just apathetic...

An armed conflict... it's their worst case scenario, they like us like this.... they will always back down if we get really mad, there wont be a revolution... they will back down any time we show some stregnth... that's why those Men today COULD carry the guns...

as for the riots... the American people didn't want them to riot it was a niche group, it wasn't an actual fight... If the people for the most part support an action against an element... yeah they can suppress...

Some of what people are mad about doesn't amount to a riot by an angry mob... it's far, far bigger

[edit on 18-8-2009 by mopusvindictus]

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 02:37 AM
reply to post by BlackOps719

What happen to the guns in the UK in Australia, and all the other countries that nolonger have guns?
If you ask a Australia, they will tell you they got hood winked.
It also appears Australia will be location of NWO headquarters , Kissinger was behind that, the people said why is the Building so big our Government isn't that big, but it will be.

This is coming the Earth can't with stand the population growth rate, not for even another 10 years, so what is going to happen?

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 02:49 AM

Originally posted by BlackOps719

Fighting to the death is a last resort, not a way to progress. If you have to fight and die then so be it, but only after every other course of action has failed.

Summed up Very well...

They aren't going to push the point that hard

and neither was that the intention of those carrying the guns... Death of America isn't an option on anyone's agenda...

I think it's good these men stood up on the issue, they have a legal right to bear arms and wont be giving it up, let it be known...

I know we disagree on that part... but they weren't there to shoot anyone...

Obamas a sharp guy, he can figure people out... and he's come off allot of promises he knows aren't going to happen...

the reality is...

I kind of feel for the guy, he's not going to get anything done given the opposition in front of him... and he has good intention...

but this is why he wasn't a seasoned enough candidate,

he's bright...

has good intentions...

he does know foreign affairs...

he knows the urban plight...

But all he's got for run of the mill America is Biden... who's from outer space anyway...

Obama doesn't "get" White Rural America like he thinks he does... guy never expected this kind of opposition, and he's not a jerk, I don't get that feel, he doesn't hate them, just doesn't get these people fully...

Nor did he realize the kind of power they could wield on every level...

for a guy anti stereotype... he stereotyped his opposition real bad...

There's a lesson in here somewhere about bias....

None the less...

his administration will be a failure because of it...

the problems will grow... where ithey stops nobody knows... lol

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 02:51 AM
reply to post by googolplex

Our populations aren't the ones growing bro... only America and only via immigration...

their "conspiracy" worked... it's done already, the rest is foreign affairs...

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 03:41 AM
I will take a swing at this and give my opinion. I have mixed emotions about this news story. Part of me, being a gun owner, I feel encouraged, the other part of me wonders what will happen if something goes wrong.

We've all heard stories of undercover cops pretending to be protesters and start smashing up the town. What would happen if one would take this tactic one step further and started firing off rounds at a protest.

I can see the headlines now, a nationwide ban on guns at protests. The media will push even stronger gun laws using this event as an excuse. It's such a fragile ground we walk on.

Anytime there is anything having to do with guns and violence it is used for a political agenda. Fear is a strong motivation.

I'd recommend turning off the TV and not watching the MSM, you don't get any real news off the tube anyways.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 04:02 AM
2009 the year the 1st black man carried a rifle to a presidential rally where the presidents black

and just a few years ago we had the civil rights movement

its truly remarkable how fast a country can change

absolutely have to have a lot of respect for all those people exercising their rights and not giving the police the chance to catch em messing up and make gun advocates look bad

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 05:13 AM
if i had been in az at the time i would have been down there, being that i am out of the coutry for a few months im still happy to hear my home town actually stood up and did something. however, i have a feeling a large portion of these protestors were minutemen. i loathe them, and am sad to know these racist bastards are probably a good portion of the members at these protests. where are my freedom loving not racist arizonans willing to stand up to there oopressive governent!?!? i hope to meet some soon

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 05:15 AM

Originally posted by Rockpuck
I always wonder why more people don't bring firearms to rallies and protest... if the people were holding AR15's I think the police would think twice before they bash peoples skulls in with clubs and shields.

Take the London protest. How far would the police have gotten when they faced several thousand armed, angry people?

Protect your freedoms, or the fascist take it by force...

Or by parading your guns around in public like trophies gives the reason for your govt. to want to take them away from you because you behave like cowboys!

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 05:16 AM
it makes me happy to see America's people slowly waking up,
Its a bugger seeing good people being abused, lied to and decieved.

Good on you guys,
follow that smart fella and carry the biggest gun ya can

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 05:18 AM

Originally posted by warrenb

About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday—the latest incidents in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.

Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.

The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.

Phoenix police Detective J. Oliver, who was monitoring the man at the downtown protest, said police also wanted to make sure no one decided to harm him.

"Just by his presence and people seeing the rifle and people knowing the president was in town, it sparked a lot of emotions," Oliver said. "We were keeping peace on both ends."

"It's a political statement," he told The Boston Globe. "If you don't use your rights, then you lose your rights."

More people using their rights while they still have them.
Excellent, it gets the point across and possible wakes more sheep up.

Aren't you just giving Obama more reason to take away your toys if you wave 'em around in front of his face. Would you feel secure as president if armed gangs were hanging around?

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 05:29 AM
Beware of agents provocateurs. And i really mean that.
You may not fire the first shot but some state-puppet will, dressed as "protester", then the SHTF

[edit on 18-8-2009 by Dynamitrios]

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 05:56 AM

Originally posted by Dynamitrios
Beware of agents provocateurs. And i really mean that.
You may not fire the first shot but some state-puppet will, dressed as "protester", then the SHTF

[edit on 18-8-2009 by Dynamitrios]

Good advice. The only problem is most likely it would be the CIA and Federal Government who would start violence rather then the states.

Hopefully change can come without resorting to violence.

[edit on 18-8-2009 by libertytoall]

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 06:04 AM
reply to post by mike dangerously

That's one of the weakest arguments I've ever heard. Far weaker than any video game argument.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:14 AM
Personally, I do not think it is wise to carry at a public event, as you can be sure your photo is now in possession of the ATF, FBI, Homeland Security etc.

Also, I recommend paying cash for any ammo you purchase. Don't use a cc or debit card.

Lets not give them any help in their quest for gun confiscation.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:17 AM

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:29 AM

Originally posted by whaaa
As long as gun owners like myself act responsibly and act within the law; I can see it as a proper demonstration as per the constitution.

But what will be the result when some drunk, medicated or very angry gun owner decides to let off a few rounds just to make a point? Eventually we all know this will happen. What then? How will the cops react? The secret service?

A more very real possibility is a "responsible gun owner" plant who shows up at a meeting with a firearm and acts stupidly. The the MSM will have a heyday stereotyping all the right wing gun owner religious loonies.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:48 AM
reply to post by warrenb

I said this on another topic, but I really do love the fact that there are African Americans in these groups. Racism in this land is not being destroyed by the presence of an Black president. Racism is being destroyed because the multicolored people of America are joining hands in saying no to the government.

This is why I love America.

Besides that, it's a wonderful sight to see an armed population peacefully demonstrating and breaking stereotypes left and right and making people see the growing of a new modern dissenter movement.

[edit on 18-8-2009 by Gorman91]

Who here hopes this guy becomes an American Icon besides me?

[edit on 18-8-2009 by Gorman91]

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:52 AM

Originally posted by DraconianKing
It's only a matter of time before one of these people takes a shot at Obama. That's what happens when republicans lie to their delusional supporters. These people want to murder the president, they don't care about their rights they just don't want a black president. If this isn't about race then why didn't you gun lovers bring all your guns when Bush was in town?

Because he wasn't a socialist. Seriously, you can't compare Bush and Obama. That's like comparing apples and well, some fruit that grows in Kenya/Indonesia. Bush never asked you to send him an email telling on your friend, co-worker or family member for not supporting his ideas. Bush never stated that he was about change and hope only to fool those gulliable sheeple into electing him so he could implement policies that would change our society to a socialist society. I can go on and on about how sh*tty Obama is and why we American citizens see this prez as nothing more then a sham morons voted for. BHO plans to slowly take away the right to free speech (send him this post if you need more points from der Leader) and implement a socialist agenda.

If anything, I never thought I needed a gun when Bush was the prez. Now I am pretty sure I do with this backwards @ss coward with a pretty mouth in the wh.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:56 AM

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar

Have you EVER seen someone drunk at a protest?

I don't think you have been to many protest rallys. Me and my friends always used to combine alcohol and ***. Rallys are as much a social event as political. Great places to meet women.

I'm sorry, but if you're serious, you're a #ing idiot.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:56 AM
reply to post by jjkenobi

I think you are dead on. Obama is all about planting supporters of his agenda into meetings. Remember the "doctor" that spoke at one of the town halls and said how she loved the idea of a gov run health care plan. Come to find out she wasn't an MD at all but part of BHO's campaign. There is some transparency for you.

The MSM has no worth standards. Just look at what they said about those taking part in the latest Tea Party. Did anyone else get sick of how the MSM kept saying "tea bagged"?

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