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Phoenix: Dozens of armed citizens attend todays Obama Speech

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posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:05 AM
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you like bush hey? I guess then you dont think the child abuse allegations, rape allegations, the drug smuggling allegations, and hte allegations they set up the gulf war due to their oil interests and to make money etc are true then? (icke's books: alice in wonderland and the world trade centre disaster; the biggest secret etc.. dont know about his other theories but icke seems to have done some research on politicians etc). Also the head of the fbi just came out and said that cia is involved and top govt officials involved in high level child abuse rings networks and satanic child abuse. check out the illuminati hand signals bush, clintons, sarcozy and russian pres use. all use the same hand symbol.

also jim marr's book: rule by secrecy is good book on how govt is in bed with international bankers/secret societies that rule the world, and always have. i.e. how the world really works.

i used to think the statue of liberty was a statue meant to symbolize liberty too. apparantly not. its semiramis, the goddess of their cult. and the flame of 'liberty (not)' is also over diana's crash site. also their handiwork apparantly. there is an ancient depiction of semiramis wiht her pointy crown just like the statue of liberty. she's isis/mary/venus etc/ishtar. same goddess. acc to icke and others.

check out the us one dollar bill. the illuminati symbol of the pyramid and all seeing eye. a very ancient symbol. us suckers are the pyramid. they are the all seeing eye..




posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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talk about setting up a really nice and easy false flag operation. The assassination of the first black president would have a pretty substantial polarizing effect everywhere. Buildings and structures are not the only things that stand as symbols.

The pieces are already being set up - couple red blooded Americans stand up for their rights by bringing sidearms to political functions, media spins it the way they want, the defending party spins it back, the opportunity arises that anyone in power or otherwise now can instigate any agenda they want and place blame elsewhere. Talk about the construction of a conspiracy... this would fit that bill down to the letter if things jump off.

As for weapons at presidential appearances... well that didn't work out too well for a few of our leaders. I'd love to ask Reagan his opinion



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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How do you know these were not Gang members defending their members rights to free assembly without being beaten by the cops?

I mean yes anything is possible , point is it is not acceptable to go gun toting around any Presidential rally.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:09 AM
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Everybody should start carrying their guns, and scream "this is my right, this is my country, this is freedom, this is AMERICA"



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:23 AM
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exactly how is Obama trying to take guns from people. I keep hearing this. Where is the proof?

They weren't even taken away at this rally. Not exactly oppressive on obama's part.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:25 AM
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No, it's not.

A concealed weapon is a far larger risk. When it's out in the open, in a holster, on a shoulder, it's not a problem. People become aware of it. If it's concealed, it's a real threat.

Tell me, how many presidents, or important people for that matter, have been assassinated by people out in the open carrying a weapon? Now, tell me how many presidents, or important people, have been assassinated by concealed or hidden weapons?

Don't buy in to the spin.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Mr_XIM
Everybody should start carrying their guns, and scream "this is my right, this is my country, this is freedom, this is AMERICA"


lol

"yes and we are the police, lay down your weapons or we will fire"

"What?? I am Man... Hear me ROAR"

" In the News today 256 people were arrested for attempted Murder and disturbing the peace at a local Town Hall meeting....."

Yes it is America, one of the biggest culprits of Warmongering around the world aided by UK and now the EU.

What is this world coming to?!



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
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Some people might buy your brainwashed argument except the guy carrying the AR-15 was BLACK.

I know it might be hard for you but trying doing a little research before your regurgitate what someone else told you to think.

www.clipsyndicate.com...


who cares what color he is...he does not get a pass



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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Think people think -

Who is VP Mr Joe Biden - what does he have in his closet?

Secondly, you lot need to watch the film Ghandi. Mahatma Ghandi (I think I got the spelling right) was a legend in India. His revolution was formed through peaceful, but forceful action.

"There is no cause or idea for which I am ready to kill."

"I am asking you to fight - and it will hurt, as all fighting hurts. But we will not strike a blow. We will not kill anyone. They will fine us, imprison us, hit us, and possibly kill us. But through our suffering, through our pain - they will learn of their injustices."

Who's ready to put their arse on the line?

The Para.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by Credge
reply to post by antar
 


No, it's not.

A concealed weapon is a far larger risk. When it's out in the open, in a holster, on a shoulder, it's not a problem. People become aware of it. If it's concealed, it's a real threat.

Tell me, how many presidents, or important people for that matter, have been assassinated by people out in the open carrying a weapon? Now, tell me how many presidents, or important people, have been assassinated by concealed or hidden weapons?

Don't buy in to the spin.


oh, ok...using your logic, how many people could come to a presidential meeting carrying guns out in the open??? 10? 50? what if 500 guys showed up, all carrying ar-15's out in the open??? that would be ok with you?? your "RISK ASSESSMENT" is rediculous.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:41 AM
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Facebook Poll: 71.4% want firearms at Obama town halls
apps.facebook.com...

With over 2,000 responses, 71.4% say "Yes, people should be taking assault weapons to Obama town halls."






posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:53 AM
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who cares what color he is...he does not get a pass


Maybe some people around here(not you) will actually heed that advice and quit throwing around the race card then.

Just because the president is black he does not get a pass.

 


There is nothing wrong with these people carrying weapons to a protest. Other than people that are gun shy they aren't hurting anybody and nobody got hurt or arrested.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by warrenb
Facebook Poll: 71.4% want firearms at Obama town halls
apps.facebook.com...

With over 2,000 responses, 71.4% say "Yes, people should be taking assault weapons to Obama town halls."





Im all for putting your point across, but when you start having to brandish weapon's to get your opinion noticed/installed, well, it's just not Cricket and a huge step back for civilisation.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
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who cares what color he is...he does not get a pass


Maybe some people around here(not you) will actually heed that advice and quit throwing around the race card then.

Just because the president is black he does not get a pass.

 


There is nothing wrong with these people carrying weapons to a protest. Other than people that are gun shy they aren't hurting anybody and nobody got hurt or arrested.


Why do you need a weapon?




Weapon 1 Definition: An instrument of offensive of defensive combat; something to fight with; anything used, or designed to be used, in destroying, defeating, or injuring an enemy, as a gun, a sword, etc.


Why? If your intent is peaceful speech and debate?



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by rapunzel222
reply to post by Roadblockx
 


you like bush hey? I guess then you dont think the child abuse allegations, rape allegations, the drug smuggling allegations, and hte allegations they set up the gulf war due to their oil interests and to make money etc are true then? (icke's books: alice in wonderland and the world trade centre disaster; the biggest secret etc.. dont know about his other theories but icke seems to have done some research on politicians etc). Also the head of the fbi just came out and said that cia is involved and top govt officials involved in high level child abuse rings networks and satanic child abuse. check out the illuminati hand signals bush, clintons, sarcozy and russian pres use. all use the same hand symbol.

also jim marr's book: rule by secrecy is good book on how govt is in bed with international bankers/secret societies that rule the world, and always have. i.e. how the world really works.

i used to think the statue of liberty was a statue meant to symbolize liberty too. apparantly not. its semiramis, the goddess of their cult. and the flame of 'liberty (not)' is also over diana's crash site. also their handiwork apparantly. there is an ancient depiction of semiramis wiht her pointy crown just like the statue of liberty. she's isis/mary/venus etc/ishtar. same goddess. acc to icke and others.

check out the us one dollar bill. the illuminati symbol of the pyramid and all seeing eye. a very ancient symbol. us suckers are the pyramid. they are the all seeing eye..


Ugh... Why must humans make assumptions?? Just ask me if I like Bush, don't assume.
Assuming makes you look dumb at best.

My response was to a comment about guns showing up at rallies and why its happening so often with Obama and not with Bush. Because of my answer to that question and the criticism of Obama, you naturally went with the assumption I liked Bush.
Sorry, but that is incorrect. While I despise der Leader, I still wasn't a major fan of the things Bush did. To clarify and remove any other temptation to assume, I dislike Bush less then Obama. A lot less.

The commentary about the dollar and relation to the Illuminati are as old as time itself. We all know. Not sure that Bush was there when they were designing the currency but perhaps we can fault him for that too.




posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:09 AM
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bran⋅dish (bran-dish)

–verb (used with object) 1. to shake or wave, as a weapon; flourish: Brandishing his sword, he rode into battle.

–noun 2. a flourish or waving, as of a weapon.

dictionary.reference.com...



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:09 AM
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What a bunch of freaks.

Nex minute you'll be telling me Americans will be taking lighters and matches to an explosive gas factory. Just because they 'have the frickin' right' too.

How about carrying flasks of bubonic plague to a nursery, 'cos it's in a glass jar and i sure as heck won't be dropping it'.

Only in America eh?



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:10 AM
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Exactly! I don't once remember someone being called a racist when they criticized Bush. I don't once remember Bush asking me to send him the name of someone that said his plan for socialism sucked.

Besides, Obama is half white, half black. Which half am I being racist towards??




posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by hotrodturbo7
reply to post by wraith001
 


bran⋅dish (bran-dish)

–verb (used with object) 1. to shake or wave, as a weapon; flourish: Brandishing his sword, he rode into battle.

–noun 2. a flourish or waving, as of a weapon.

dictionary.reference.com...





2. brandish - exhibit aggressively





ex·hib·it (g-zbt, g-) v. ex·hib·it·ed, ex·hib·it·ing, ex·hib·its v.tr. 1. To show outwardly; display.

2. a. To present for others to see: To present in a public exhibition or contest:


Your Move




[edit on 18-8-2009 by wraith001]



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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Because it is my right to defend myself. Just because the president is around doesn't mean laws are suspended.

Nobody is going to hurt the guy, they are exercising their rights. I don't see what makes the cops and secret service agents different from anybody else, they aren't super-humans.

Those people have their weapons way closer than the protesters would even be allowed to get.



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