One survival rifle, count it only 1, yes just one thats it, page 4

reply to post by OnTheFelt

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My wife and I are moving to Kalifornia this fall for work and I've been looking around on ways to bring my guns legal.

For the AR, all you have to do is get a "bullet button" Here. This makes the rest of the "evil features" legal. If the SHTF scenario does happen, you simply put in the old magazine button into the lower and pop in your 30-round magazines like normal.

One thing I'm NOT happy about is having to register my handguns. I have a Glock 23 and 27 and I don't like the idea of letting the state know that I have any guns (considering I own 2 ARs, an M1A, and a Mossberg 500). Anyone know if there is a way around having to register the handguns in that state?

Thanks,
W

reply to post by wills120

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1) Don't move to KandyKornia.

2) Don't register your guns, and run the risk of imprisonment.

reply to post by ReelView

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Yep, that was my pick over all as well. A rifle, and any caliber there of, needs accuracy as you pointed out; as a long shot.

There are so many variables with the ideology of a long shot. windage, elevation, environment, raining, snowing, low visability, etc.

Also, many don't seem to realize the concept of leading a critter on the move out in the distance. The people expressing the superiority of a long shot need to take into account whether they can effectively lead a moving target.

On top of all that what will your physical condition be??? Myself with a shotgun, given bird, or buck shot will definitely hit what I generally aim at 60 yds away. Even if I'm suffering from severe physical ailments due to the environment. Remember this is a survival situation, and our stamina, coordination, and the like may be severally altered, and impaired. Considering all that, hitting a target at 60yds will prove difficult; let alone the odds of hitting a given target further out.

reply to post by Desolate Cancer

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They do make bird shot rounds for the pistol cartridges, but would you really want the lead fouling your barrel=the lands/grooves?

I've not met too many people that use them; because of the fowling issue.

I agree on the noise aspect of a 12 gauge, but at the same time any high powered fire arm is going to be LOUD.

I'd agree to simply fish, and trap. My survival weapon is just that, the best overall gun; there are many facets to survival, and a person has to be ready overall.

reply to post by xyankee

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I'd almost agree with you, but as far as fending off a very hungry bear, it just won't work. You could kill a person attacking you, but it has nothing to actually stop the oncoming assault........no kick back, or knock down.

I love a 10/22, and other than a shotgun would probably go with that.

However, since the lubrication for a 22 is on the outide of the bullet you'd have to keep all your ammo absolutely pristine. Also, there are issues in snow country of the action working correctly............need graphite lubrication in those instances.

this is what i got and 1,200 rounds of ammo ... i mostly got it for hunting



[edit on 10-8-2009 by NickT916]

reply to post by Desolate Cancer

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I would have to say my idea of the perfect rifle would have to be the Winchester Model 1892. It is very accurate and very dependable. If you need a reference to place the rifle just watch Wanted Dead or Alive, although it is a modified version of the rifle it shows the versatility of the weapon.

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