posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:14 PM
Hey, I almost made a thread about this recently, but just wasn't in to it.
The perfect survival rifle/shotgun??? What you have!!!
Now, I KNOW my guns.
I agree with the shotgunners above, but not with a mossberg. Reason? Mossberg gives a maximum lifespan on in the gaurantee.... Like Beretta. I
think most Mossbergs' are good for something like 5000 rounds? Not too many imo. Still is good though.
Elmer kieth who was a famous wild catter gun dude shot over a million rounds through both an 870, and 1100 remingtons. Remingtons will last, and
I think a pump shotgun is better than an automatic because it will function without pause; they can be cycled as fast as an automatic with
No gas seals to go out. Also, when you rack the shotgun it is a deterrent in of itself.........just the sound.
The types of rounds available for shotguns are amazing. AMAZING. bird shot, buckshot, sabots, incendiery, ***explosive****, ***armor piercing***,
slugs, rubber balls, rubber slugs, ***pepper***..........ETC.
They even have "short" shells available now. They are expensive, but where your shotgun tube would hold 5 shots, now it'll hold say 8. I guess
the first round in the tube needs to be a regular length shell in many automatics as you end up with a jam.
Rifles???? only if your sniping someone; how many of you know how to find your range, elevation, windage, effects of climate, sun, rain, fog,
etc????????? Not many. I used to compete in DCM competitions.... Let me tell you shooting at 600 yds., or farther takes skill, and lots of
Also with the automatics of any shape rifle, shotgun, handgun are issues with especially COLD. At best you'd need to change your lube over to a dry
graphite(sp). Otherwise they will not function; they'll freeze up.
I carry a either a pump shotgun in the truck, or I carry a 1911a1; however in the winter(up north) I make sure that the 1911 is warm....it freezes
up!!!!!!......... That presents the other problem of condensation; which leads to rust.
Talking about survival guns you'd better keep it in good ***operating**** condition.
Beyond the shotgun, my other preference as noted above would be a 22 rimfire.........maybe a 10/22.
Solely imo AR's aren't all they are cracked up to be.
Looking at ballistic reports of wounds from 223/5.56, .308/7.62, or the 7.62X39 I'd have to go with the latter ever time. The 223 doesn't do that
much damage to a body overall(combinations of spin, and bullet weight can change that), .308 are expensive, great for moderate long range, but don't
have enough wobble to fubar someone..........go to the 7.62x39 holy cr*p...fubar city. I was jaw dropped at seeing the terminal nature of the round.
After you iron out all the little fine points of any akm/arm/ak47 They make a fine rifle.
My choice for survival is a remington 870 12 guage. carrying buck, and bird shot.
after that in order would be:
1911 pistol, or glock******glocks are very picky about needing fmj, and I wouldn't recommend reloads.
Oh, star, and flag
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