Skeptics seem to rely on FAITH for Flight 93 buried claim, page 3
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 11:03 PM by CameronFox
reply to post by ATH911



I was not at Shanksville ATH. Nor were you. What I can offer you is the list of those that were. I also gave you contact information as well. I also gave you a list of names of those that watched the plane crash. Will you contact any of them?

Are you, like Tezz, only here for the debate? Or, like some, actually looking for the truth?

U2U me if you are sincere about contacting those at UA. I will be happy to give you the name of the contact there and their attorneys.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 11:46 PM by CameronFox
Originally posted by ATH911

Were any of those civilian witnesses there when the Feds allegedly dug out the estimated equivalent of 24 cars out of the ground?


I don't know. What I do know (and if you had bothered to read them) is that they were witnesses to a rather large plane crashing near them.


Do you have evidence that any of the plane was buried deep into the ground?


The FDR and CVR were found at 15 and 25 feet respectively. This was reported by FBI spokesman Bill Crowley, and Arlen Spector.
www.nytimes.com...

Will you accept it as evidence? Not a snowballs chance in hell. The reason why you, as a truth seeker whould get the information first hand!


Are you here to troll, or try to help the government cover-up the crime of 9/11? There would be severe consequences if the later is true.


Trolling? I am offering information to those that are searching for the truth.

I'd be careful with what you post regarding consequences. Making threats in this forum will get you banned.


I couldn't find where they witnesses tons of plane wreckage coming out of the ground. Could you?


They all saw a plane crash.... oh wait... OMG! You are a no planer. I should have know. They had the hologram machine set up in Shanksville too!!!

I have wasted my time posting to you. I just read some of your posts on other threads.



reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 12:39 AM by ATH911
Originally posted by CameronFox
I don't know. What I do know (and if you had bothered to read them) is that they were witnesses to a rather large plane crashing near them.

And yet hardly anything resembling a large plane is left at the scene, even thought 95% was supposedly recovered.

The FDR and CVR were found at 15 and 25 feet respectively. This was reported by FBI spokesman Bill Crowley, and Arlen Spector.

So two black boxes and and engine part is all you got that most of a 757 buried itself? Weak, weak, weak.

Will you accept it as evidence?

Evidence that most of a 757 buried itself? Not a snowball's chance in hell! Especially when those black boxes look staged.

I'd be careful with what you post regarding consequences. Making threats in this forum will get you banned.

It wasn't threats of violence. If 9/11 was indeed and inside job and you were found guilty of helping to cover that up, don't you think there would be consequences coming your way?

They all saw a plane crash.... oh wait... OMG! You are a no planer. I should have know.

And funny you can't prove a plane was underground, so in fact the evidence leans toward no plane underground!

They had the hologram machine set up in Shanksville too!!!

Yeah, you're not a troll.

I have wasted my time posting to you. I just read some of your posts on other threads.

The ones asking for extraordinary proof for extraordinary claim that most of Flight 93 buried itself? It's no wonder you want to run away from those.


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 02:19 AM by impressme
There has NEVER been any real proof that flight 93 crashed in Shanksville PA.
I have not seen one pieces of tangible proof; furthermore, the alledge plane crash in PA was not investigated. This is the first time in American history that four airplanes crashed in one day and our government turns their back by refusing to investigate these alleged air crashes.

F.B.I. Counsel: No Attempt Made By F.B.I. To Formally Identify 9/11 Plane Wreckage


pilotsfor911truth.org...

United 93 Still Airborne After Alleged Crash - According To ATC/Radar

04/28/09 (PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Recently it has been brought to our attention that Air Traffic Control (ATC) transcripts reveal United 93 as being airborne after it's alleged crash. Similar scenarios have been offered with regard to American 77 and American 11 showing an aircraft target continuing past its alleged crash point in the case of American 11, or past the turn-around point in the case of American 77. However, both these issues can be easily explained by "Coast Mode" radar tracking. This is not the case with United 93.
Full Article Here


Flight Data Recorder Analysis
January 5, 2008 - We now have the additional Flight Data Recorder information in full which we obtained May 2007. We have analyzed this newly obtained csv file data (excel spread sheet) and animation provided by the National Transportation Safety Board thoroughly in our new documentary recently released, Pandora's Black Box - Chapter Three - Flight Of United 93. Click here for your personal copy. The associated press release can be viewed here.

National Transportation Safety Board PDF Documents
Sept 23, 2006 - We have the pdf's for UA93 FDR via NTSB. I noticed the FDR shows UA93 at 40 degrees pitch down and -5 degrees Angle of Attack at impact (FDR shows -15 as level throughout flight, -20 at impact). If that was the case, it would seem UA93 would be making a long ditch along the flight path while impacting the ground and spreading wreckage at close to a 35 degree flight path. The pictures of UAL93 impact crater shows a vertical, straight down crater (~90 degrees vertical), not a 35 degree impact creating a long ditch. Remember, the ground here is reported to be very soft.

pilotsfor911truth.org...

I don’t care to hear hearsay information and for good reason, people lie for what ever reason. Give us something that we can hold in our hands something that has the airplanes serial part numbers that match these planes. We all know the FBI has lied repeatedly about the events of 911, which has been proven already.
The OS about the Shanksville crash is just a story no different from the story of the Wizard of Os. Nothing can be proven, nothing can be verified, there is not any real tangible evidences that can verify that the OS is true. Oh but we have hearsay! I cannot tell you all how many myths are created by hearsay. We are all born to lie and the government is just as good at it as anyone else is.


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 02:54 AM by ATH911
Originally posted by waypastvne
The government CAN NOT LIE as good as...
pilotsfor911truth.org...
But the government is better at math.
11.2 G's still makes me laugh.

You know what makes us laugh? You skeptics being unable to prove where most of Flight 93 was after it allegedly crashed. "Got to have Faith!" Yeah!


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 03:48 AM by impressme
reply to post by waypastvne



The government CAN NOT LIE as good as...
pilotsfor911truth.org...
But the government is better at math.


This question is for you only, please prove that “pilotsfor911truth.org” are lairs? Prove that their reports about flight 93 is a lie and please show your sources.
As far as the government is better at math, (still makes me laugh.)


[edit on 1-7-2009 by impressme]


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:28 AM by mike dangerously
reply to post by ATH911

ATH, they will just try to derail,deflect or just avoid the thread altogether like they have been it seems to me they cherry pick topics.
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