Something strange is happening in the forests of Africa., page 2

reply to post by DaddyBare

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Yet more evidence that we're not all that advanced after all. We always think we're better than animals and even think of ourselves separately and yet here we have chimps with complex societies and tool techniques it won't be long until they're writing the Sacred Scrolls and forming forbidden zones

We really should keep an eye on this sort of thing, it might put that evolution debate to bed real quick if we can actually record the evolution of chimps into something else

reply to post by Phenomium

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Even if it is as you say that someone trained these chimps to make and hunt with a spear and released this troop to the wild then we still have a major evolutionary leap for the great Apes, They have learned to make weapons!

reply to post by jar11

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I know what you mean. Some have suggested that "evolutionary leaps" are programmed into DNA itself.

reply to post by jar11

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I agree -- why can't it just be as simple as God created the original life form and everything derived from it?

That would take care of God and evolution.

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Originally posted by brokenheadphonez
reply to post by jar11

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I know what you mean. Some have suggested that "evolutionary leaps" are programmed into DNA itself.

Some have even suggested that evolutionary leaps are happening because a species has eaten some kind of plant or mushroom by mistake that causes hallucinations which which in turn provide a way to "think outside the box".

Maybe a chimp had a shroom for breakfast and saw something in his altered state and came up with these ideas. The rest of the chimps maybe just followed what he (or she...) did and a new behavior was born.

Who knows...

reply to post by IKEA

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Very possible...

Not that I'd know first hand, of course!

reply to post by DaddyBare

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It's a wonderful idea that apes are doing things that "have never before been witnessed". But could it be that they have been doing this for decades, and only now, with a little more funding and research have we witnessed these marvels?

I don't want to sound like the ultimate "party pooper", but it just doesn't seem quite right to me that all of a sudden there's a smart documentary covering this topic.

I just did a quick "Ask" search for the same information and it seems that this was reported as far back as 2007.

Just because it wasn't observed before then doesn't mean to say that they haven't been doing it for hundreds of not thousands of years.

Not to mention, a clever documentary, cleverly edited would have you believe that Stanley Kubrick faked the moon landings... Ask or Google "Dark Side of the Moon" and enjoy! en.wikipedia.org...(documentary)

I fully believe that apes have been using tools for a long time. I also believe that they are very, very intelligent. As for this being a "new" phenomenon... not for a second.

It seems that as a race we are so insecure that we have to find new and different ways of setting ourselves apart from the animal kingdom, and then find new and different ways of re-attatching ourselves. When will it end?

From Divine Cosomos: David Wilcock.

The Shift Of the Ages: Convergence Vol 1

www.divinecosmos.com...

Dont know if any of you have heard of the 100th Monkey!

Consciousness is naturally shared between particular species of animals, via the intelligent energy that connects all life in the Universe, and there is also some degree of sharing between all different species as well.

The different animals within a given species are always consulting this “group mind” as they go throughout their daily routines, and if enough animals have the same experience, the knowledge gained from this experience becomes a part of the group-mind.

Hence we have the famous “hundredth monkey” effect, where a series of monkeys were studied on separate islands, all isolated from each other. The scientists performing the study presented the monkeys with a challenge for gathering food that they had never encountered before.

Either potatoes or rice were presented to the monkeys, but they were covered in sand. Some of the monkeys got the idea to wash the food in the stream and remove the sand. After approximately 100 of the monkeys did this, a “critical mass” was reached.

Suddenly, every monkey on every island was no longer perplexed by the problem; they would all immediately wash the rice or potatoes as if they had always known how to do it, though they had never been in contact with any of the first 100 monkeys who solved the puzzle on their own.

Hence, a critical threshold was reached once the “hundredth monkey” learned the skill, and the behavior became completely automatic. This shows us how a new survival concept was written into the group-mind of this particular species of monkey.

[edit on 28-6-2009 by The_Seeker]

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