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The End of America, “Gone Without a Whimper”

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posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 08:54 PM
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reply to post by SGTChas
 


I can somewhat agree,there is a movement,but when will it become a mass? Its not here yet I feel,but its coming,it may awaken,it will storm when it does.
I speak on another forum with a Russian, he swears America will suffer a communist revolution, I cry constitutional restoration,I often see his viewpoint though,we could fall into class warfare,we could do that easily.




posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 09:14 PM
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I happen to think there are much more people who feel as we do... we just aren't aware of each other thanks to any lack of serious attention given by the MSM save for a few tid bits here and there.

One has to remember there are many more sites than just ATS. Think youtube, infowars, campaign for liberty, even people on myspace and facebook, oathkeepers, etc.

Oh and Neno, might I suggest you stop feeding the trolls. You are merely encouraging them to return for more free food.

[edit on 2-6-2009 by Anonymous Avatar]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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You could be being played,you could be led into a trap. You are not invincible.Fool yourselfs not.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 09:53 PM
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I know that if it comes down to fighting in the streets for freedom, someone's blood is gonna start running. I hope to God that it doesn't come to that, but I know that it may.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by nenothtu
reply to post by HunkaHunka
 


Nice touch with the 'wikipedia' entry. did you make that entry yourself, just for the occasion?

If that post is your answer, then their morality obviously came from your textbooks, and wikipedia.

If you can't answer my question, then neither will I answer yours.

I'm done with this exercise in futility.

Have a nice day.


[edit on 2009/6/2 by nenothtu]


Done? You never even started...

You are playing a silly game in which you don't say anything and belittle everything anyone else says... that's called being a Troll..



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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Indeed that is a possibility but the First Amendment has yet to be repealed so I will continue to speak my mind as afforded to me by the Constitution which millions of Americans have given their lives for me to do.

That is exactly what they want and all they need to win is for people to live in Fear. I do not advocate violence but I do advocate self defense and preservation of the Constitutional Republic and that comes in the form of speaking out right now.

At the gun range last weekend there were women in business suits shooting AR-15s with quad rails, pistol grips, and Trijicons. There were people of all ages and all races and both genders. Just talking to people in all walks of life from Florida to California in all industries across every pay scale more people than not know what is going on and are silently preparing.

Dont get me wrong there are plenty of people asleep, but I hear about the NWO coming in places I would never expect to hear it. From clubs to my work place and I am not even the one to bring it up. Give people some credit.

You don't have to know about the NWO to know the Government is bending you over and not using lube.

Their greatest mistake will be to underestimate the resolve of the American people.

The tipping point draws ever closer...

[edit on 2-6-2009 by Anonymous Avatar]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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The conspiracy after all could be correct and we may be being played,a la bolshivick revolution,only to be subjugated in the end. A little social experiment if you will.
Oh the tangled webs we weave when first we begin to decieve.

[edit on 6/2/09 by nickoli]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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It won't be me who has to go home and look my kids and my family in the eye and know that I violated an innocent person's freedom and happiness that never hurt another person.

It won't be me who has to live with myself for selling out our kids to a life of servitude and slavery.

Nor will it be me who sits idly by and watch's my neighbors and loved ones get rounded up in detention camps for disagreeing with our government and being labeled a potential terrorist.

To those who would do these things may God have mercy on your soul and may your kids forgive you for the slavery you left them in.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by SGTChas
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Your reason is impeccable; how does one accomplish such? The Tea Party apparatus is in place, can we not use it to springboard into the Unrepresented Party? Or is there such a party apparatus in place? We need action NOW, is the point.



The very important thing about the Tea Parties is that the people exercised assembly and public speech at once. Assembly is a primal, basic and symptomatic group human response and expression.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:20 PM
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Oh this is definitely an experiment and quite a gamble on their end.

But If I don't speak up someone who never bothers anyone and helps others where I can and pay my taxes, who else will?



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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I shall unleash the anarchist and the nihlist or something along those lines. Help me here Sgt. Chaos,where are we in Revelations?



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:28 PM
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Unlike the incorrect teaching of some, the first seal has not been broken yet as the 'ride' (Koine Greek usage 'swift action in overtaking') of the Anti-Christ has not begun - EVERYONE with open eyes will understand when his 'ride' begins.

PS: Its SGT CHAS.

[edit on 6/2/2009 by SGTChas]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Done? You never even started...

You are playing a silly game in which you don't say anything and belittle everything anyone else says... that's called being a Troll..



What part of "done" was unclear to you?

You have a novel definition of "anyone else".

You failed to answer a simple question, and to cover your failure resorted to name calling.

Epic Fail.

You might want to look up the definition of "done" on your wikipedia.

You have the last word, sir. Please exercise it.

Pat yourself on the back, rest on your laurels, and have a nice day.


nenothtu out



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:41 PM
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Sorry about the misspell SGTChas,thanks for the reply.
To make a long post short,there is yet nowhere near 6% ready to die for their beliefs,i.e. constitutional restorative revolution. This should be considered a very open forum and even the numbers reflective here prove the point.
This in no way is an effort to detract from those who consider themselves patriotic it is in fact proving the point of the pravada article. It is true,as far as I can tell, America is now a fascist/socialist country. Without a whimper.



[edit on 6/2/09 by nickoli]



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:47 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 11:10 PM
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I would like to point out a fact that I know, and has been posted on this board by another member I respect alot before...

Numbers mean very little when you consider the resolve and ingenutiy of the patriots that ARE represented here on this board.

Numbers don't really mean squat unless your are a statistician.

I know this may seem counterintuitive to the "educated" mind, but we're talking real world here, not college or a computer model.

Besides, where did you get the "6%" figure... I've seen estimates of the original continental army, including partisans, to be as low as 3% of the colonists.

Numbers can also be counterproductive.

There are a LOT more patriots "under the radar" that are not represented on these various boards as well... In fact, while we're typing, they are likely preparing and training.

That is, after all, our job.


Food for thought.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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Over half the Patriots I know would never come NEAR a discussion board like this for what should be obvious reasons, most of the other half do not have the time. You really have no idea what is going on right now - take heart and prepare yourself as this Republic shall stand!



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 11:50 PM
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I'm reading all this. But have a question. The American Revolution was fought against the British. The French overthrew the monarchy. The Russian Communists overthrew their Czar. Castro overthrew incumbent Batista.

So in the new American Revolution who is out and who is in?

Obama, Biden, Pelosi, the both Houses? What about the military?

Where is the initial point of attack?

Who is removed? Who replaces them?

People need to have basics like water, heat, electricity, food delivery, etc.

How will this be maintained without disruption?

Some planning, leadership, chain of command has to be in place.

Or is it just anarchy?


Mike



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by mmiichael
I'm reading all this. But have a question. The American Revolution was fought against the British. The French overthrew the monarchy. The Russian Communists overthrew their Czar. Castro overthrew incumbent Batista.

So in the new American Revolution who is out and who is in?

Obama, Biden, Pelosi, the both Houses? What about the military?


I'm just guessing here, but going by observation of what's been going on the past few years, I'd have to say all of the above politicians would be out, and a WHOLE lot more.

I'm not clear on you question about the military. What ABOUT the military? Are you asking if they'd be fired too? I can't really conceive of that. It would be like the patriot types shooting themselves in the feet.



Where is the initial point of attack?


I'm not sure if TPTB have decided where they're going to attack yet.



Who is removed? Who replaces them?


Do you mean from office, as in politicians? I'd imagine whichever politicians replace them would be other politicians, but with a difference. They'd most likely be AWARE that it's never a good idea to ignore the constituency, given the circumstances. I'd imagine "responsive" would become a keyword in DC, or wherever their new offices were set up.



People need to have basics like water, heat, electricity, food delivery, etc.

How will this be maintained without disruption?


They probably wouldn't in the beginning. Matter of fact, that disruption at the hands of TPTB would probably be the spark that ignited the powderkeg. That seems to be the direction they're .ing in.



Some planning, leadership, chain of command has to be in place.


I'd have to agree with that, 1000%



Or is it just anarchy?


No, that would be another form of government entirely, which has not proven itself to be tenable. Not any more than Socialism.




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posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

I'm not clear on you question about the military. What ABOUT the military? Are you asking if they'd be fired too? I can't really conceive of that. It would be like the patriot types shooting themselves in the feet.




That was the trick question.

Read 20th Century history. Hundreds of overthrows and regime changes, large and small. In most cases the military is behind someone or takes control directly. Today there are dozens of countries worldwide with military governments.

They have the infrastructure, numbers, organization, guns, tanks, etc.

Organized crime and biker gangs are the next best capable of seizing control in communities.

The notion of patriots getting their act together and joining forces? Well how much of an infrastructure do they have in place right now?

When the media is knocked out, TV, Internet, cell and hardwire phones, etc - what lines of communication are ready as replacement.

How will gasoline be distributed? By who?

The military is the key if the Washington-based government is out of action.

Can you be sure they will switch sides breaking their chain of command?

Military rule has a bad track record.

Be careful what you wish for.

Viva la Revolucion!


Mike




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