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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by nenothtu
You don't need a frame of reference...
You made an assertion that there is an absolute morality outside of a group of people.
Yet you give no supporting statements describing anything about this absolute morality you speak of.
Originally posted by nenothtu
reply to post by HunkaHunka
I appear to have been laboring under a misapprehension. I thought the discussion at hand involved whether there was an absolute morality, and you want to discuss the ethics of dead cultures.
Another conflation of morality and ethics?
Or a switch of topics, mid-stream?
Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") has three principal meanings.
In its first, descriptive usage, morality means a code of conduct which is held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong. Morals are created and defined by society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience. An example of the descriptive usage could be "common conceptions of morality have changed significantly over time."
In its second, normative and universal sense, morality refers to an ideal code of conduct, one which would be espoused in preference to alternatives by all rational people, under specified conditions. In this "prescriptive" sense of morality as opposed to the above described "descriptive" sort of sense, moral value judgments such as "murder is immoral" are made. To deny 'morality' in this sense is a position known as moral skepticism, in which the existence of objective moral "truths" is rejected.
In its third usage, 'morality' is synonymous with ethics. Ethics is the systematic philosophical study of the moral domain. Ethics seeks to address questions such as how a moral outcome can be achieved in a specific situation (applied ethics), how moral values should be determined (normative ethics), what morals people actually abide by (descriptive ethics), what the fundamental nature of ethics or morality is, including whether it has any objective justification (meta-ethics), and how moral capacity or moral agency develops and what its nature is (moral psychology).
Originally posted by SGTChas
Apathy was introduced FIRST I believe by the false Church doctrine of “We’ll fly away”; this allowed an escapist disconnect from the mechanizations of daily American politics by Christians in America. This complacent attitude was transmitted to their children without the full transmission of their faith; the “Pre, Mid, or Post, it does not matter as we’re out’a here” attitude has done more to destroy political activity for the good of the nation, rather than for a special interest group, than about any other contributing factors as Christians voted as a block for the issues that effected them for the short time they thought they had left on earth, rather than for the long term good of the nation.