Swine Flu news and updates thread

FYI: Briefly and I mean literally from almost across the room chatted with someone at the gym who has a place down at Corpus Christi on the Texas coast.
She and her husband have been "sick as dogs" for a week after going down there,you ask why she's in the gym? She's an idiot IMO.

Told me that almost everyone she knows in their commuinty there is/has been reallly sick with "something"that sure sounds like it might be our friend Swiney.

I asked why she didn't just stay home and she replied "It's all just made up suff about the damn flu and I'm not going to worry about it."

Great....I literally dosed myself,my vehicle,and everything else with santizer and am going to call ahead to see if she's there before going for a while.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by irishchic]

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cant remember what they are, but i could buy 2% or even a bit higher.
It would take a LOT of digging through the thread to find the numbers from that far back.

East Asians Hardest Hit in World Crisis
www.forbes.com...

Latest swine flu panic? Health dept. budget cuts: 'Tank is empty' says NY state health commish
www.nydailynews.com...

A Long Search for a Universal Flu Vaccine
www.timesdaily.com...

Fourth Victorian swine flu case confirmed
www.theage.com.au...

State of Illinois Public Health Director Stresses Vigilance Against H1N1 Flu, May 20, 2009
enewspf.com

Thailand considers flu screening on flights
news-en.trend.az...

Upstate Officials Link Mets To Swine Flu Case
A resident of Liberty, Long Island became ill last Wednesday, three days after attending a Mets game at Citi Field on Mother's Day, said Sullivan County manager David Fanslau
www.wpix.com...

Port health surveillance to be enhanced
www.news.gov.hk...

Health officials: Isolation over Brown County swine flu victims
All 14 are said to be in good health now
www.greenbaypressgazette.com...

REGION: Swine flu continues to spread; 155 cases to date
www.northcountytimes.com...

Africa Continues To Strengthen Capacity To Deal With A/H1N1
www.medicalnewstoday.com...

Swine flu scare ends conference
www.strathspey-herald.co.uk...

# Guayaquil: Six New Influenza A (H1N1) Cases Reported; Cumulative Total Reaches Eight Confirmed Cases Nationwide: Date: May 20, 2009 2..4 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# Vermont: Second Confirmed Case of Influenza A (H1N1) Announced by State Health Officials: Date: May 20, 2009 20:30 UTC Risk: Medium L..4 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# Nova Scotia: Two Additional Cases of Influenza A (H1N1) Confirmed During Re-Testing : Date: May 20, 2009 20:13 UTC Risk: Low The Gove..4 minutes ago from twitterfeed

[edit on 5/20/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Originally posted by irishchic
FYI: Briefly and I mean literally from almost across the room chatted with someone at the gym who has a place down at Corpus Christi on the Texas coast.
She and her husband have been "sick as dogs" for a week after going down there,you ask why she's in the gym? She's an idiot IMO.

Told me that almost everyone she knows in their commuinty there is/has been reallly sick with "something"that sure sounds like it might be our friend Swiney.

I asked why she didn't just stay home and she replied "It's all just made up suff about the damn flu and I'm not going to worry about it."

Great....I literally dosed myself,my vehicle,and everything else with santizer and am going to call ahead to see if she's there before going for a while.

Your story is fascinating, and quite emblematic of the thinking at large right now. People are getting sick (or know of others who are getting sick) yet refuse to believe that there might be a problem or that anything is out of the ordinary. In your story specifically, it's kind of mind-blowing regarding the level of disconnect going on right now. Is it that people have become far too complacent, or has hiding your head in the sand become part of our national character? It's all really disturbing.

Whether the next great upheaval of our society comes along via natural or man made/manipulated means, it seems that it will only take minimum effort to gain maximum results. The best we can all do right now is to look out for ourselves and our own, and not rely on anyone else (ESPECIALLY the gub'mint.) Good luck to us all.

WHO Data - ACTUAL - As of 06:00 GMT, 19 May 2009

Date - Confirmed - Deaths - (Countries) - Mortality%

27/04 - 73 - 7 - (4) - 9.59%
28/04 - 105 - 7 - (7) - 6.67%
29/04 - 148 - 8 - (9) - 5.41%
30/04 - 257 - 8 - (11) - 3.11%
01/05 - 367 - 10 - (13) - 2.72%
02/05 - 658 - 17 - (16) - 2.58%
03/05 - 898 - 20 - (18) - 2.23%
04/05 - 1085 - 26 - (21) - 2.40%
05/05 - 1490 - 30 - (21) - 2.01%
06/05 - 1893 - 31 - (23) - 1.64%
07/05 - 2371 - 44 - (24) - 1.86%
08/05 - 2500 - 44 - (25) - 1.76%
09/05 - 3440 - 48 - (29) - 1.40%
10/05 - 4379 - 49 - (29) - 1.12%
11/05 - 4694 - 53 - (30) - 1.13%
12/05 - 5251 - 61 - (30) - 1.16%
13/05 - 5728 - 61 - (33) - 1.06%
14/05 - 6497 - 65 - (33) - 1.00%
15/05 - 7520 - 65 - (34) - 0.86%
16/05 - 8451 - 72 - (36) - 0.85%
17/05 - 8480 - 72 - (39) - 0.85%
18/05 - 8829 - 74 - (40) - 0.84%
19/05 - 9830 - 79 - (40) - 0.80%
20/05 - 10243 - 80 - (41) - 0.78%

An increase of 413 (16.0%) of confirmed cases since yesterday
An increase of 1 (8.1%) deaths since yesterday

An average 25.2% increase of confirmed cases each day
An average 12.1% increase of deaths each day


Country - Cases - Deaths - (increase of confirmed,deaths from previous

day)

Argentina - 1 - 0
Australia - 1 - 0
Austria - 1 - 0
Belgium - 5 - 0
Brazil - 8 - 0
Canada - 496 - 1
Chile - 5 - 0 (+1,0)
China - 7 - 0 (+1,0)
Colombia - 12 - 0 (+1,0)
Costa Rica - 9 - 1
Cuba - 3 - 0
Denmark - 1 - 0
Ecuador - 1 - 0
El Salvador - 2 - 0 (+2,0)
Finland - 2 - 0
France - 15 - 0 (+1,0)
Germany - 14 - 0
Greece - 1 - 0 (NEW)
Guatemala - 3 - 0
India - 1 - 0
Ireland - 1 - 0
Israel - 7 - 0
Italy - 9 - 0
Japan - 210 - 0 (+51,o)
Korea, - 3 - 0
Malaysia - 2 - 0
Mexico - 3648 - 72 (NO CHANGE?)
Netherlands- 3 - 0
New Zealand- 9 - 0
Norway - 2 - 0
Panama - 65 - 0 (+6,0)
Peru - 3 - 0 (+1,0)
Poland - 2 - 0 (+1,0)
Portugal - 1 - 0
Spain - 107 - 0 (+4,0)
Sweden - 3 - 0
Switzerland- 1 - 0
Thailand - 2 - 0
Turkey - 2 - 0
UK - 102 - 0
USA - 5469 - 6 (+346,1)

Total - 10,243 - 80

Source

Note: Interesting that Mexico & Canada have no changes.....???

Scottish friend has been complaining of flu symptoms all week... today has also said they are vomiting and squitting....

I did jokingly mention H1n1 and it was ignored.....

Flu and tummy bug?

Anyway.... will ask tomorrow what the temp is... not sure if they have a themometer as have already said us UK's dont take temps as a rule...

US Centers for Disease Control: Swine flu Director's Update Brief, Day of Supplemental, 20 May 2009
The charts in this newsest report are interesting.

Queens assistant principal Mitchell Wiener, swine flu's first city victim, mourned by hundreds
www.nydailynews.com...

Manitoba logs 2 new cases of H1N1 flu
www.winnipegfreepress.com...

Two Cases of Swine Flu Confirmed in Tokyo Area, NHK Reports
www.bloomberg.com...

Tucson boy, 13, dies of swine flu complications (Update)
www.azstarnet.com...

Poor communication hampers swine flu fight: Aviation official
www.canada.com...

From FluTracker
(per druidmechanics)

Got a NOT FOUND error on this one from Lima, Peru:

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Report Date: 5/16/2009
Reported Location: Lima, Peru
Confirmed Cases: 1
Peruvian Health Minister Oscar Ugarte said an Argentine woman had been confirmed as the first case of swine flu in Peru after falling ill with flu-like symptoms.
Source: www.nst.com.my...

Federal Government Provides Update H1N1 Flu Virus
www.marketwire.com...

Swine flu fears close 26 NY schools
news.smh.com.au...

300 students sick at Renton high school
www.nwcn.com...

No mutation of A/H1N1 virus detected in China
www.cctv.com...

AQSIQ#65306;Inbound passengers required to provide 7-day itinerary
www.cctv.com...

New H1N1 in Northern Health at the Jail
www.opinion250.com...

Flu outbreak closes more Boston-area schools
www3.whdh.com...

Bioterrorism Drill Held In Louisville
Officials Prepare City For Outbreak
www.wlky.com...

Swine flu and thermal imaging
www.hindu.com...

I'm an optimist and see the good in people/organisations. Usually.

Until I see evidence that points to the contrary.

I'd like to think that governments/WHO/CDC/MSM etc all have valid reasons for not making the public more aware of the H1N1 situation.

I haven't seen undisputed evidence so say otherwise. BUT....

...where's theres smoke theres fire.

There is definitely something not right with this picture. There is too many things not adding up.

Right at the beginning of this thread someone was making the comment of "follow the money" or something. I think this concept can definitely be applied in this case....

This pandemic WILL make certain organisations very very RICH & POWERFUL at the expense of killing/sickening a lot of people.

If this agenda is correct, it seems from the information on this thread that it is all working perfectly for them, and they are strategically playing this situation well.

Meanwhile people are sick and being treated like pawns.

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I agree that people are complacent these days..I take it as people really are afraid to think with their own minds and rather just be part of the herd..Ya dont wanna be the odd one out do ya?

I would like have been around in the 50's to see how people would handle this..

As I mentioned earlier in the thread I have been sick with flu for a while now. I went to the doctor again yesterday and was asked to come in again today for some tests. While she was taking my blood I asked if they've had any cases in the area and whether that was one of the tests they are doing. I was told that I can't possibly have swine flu and that we don't have it here so they won't be testing me... however... I was then escorted to an empty room to wait while they phoned the department of health!!! Why do that if what they've just told me is true??? While waiting I could overhear the consultation going on in the next room and it was someone talking to the doctor about swine flu saying she thinks she has it. I asked why they had to phone the department of health if its definitely not swine flu and she replied that they have to do that because I mentioned swine flu... which of course just doesn't add up... are the doctors supposed to call in every mention of it in conversation. Very strange. I was sent home and told to stay home for a week with a follow up consultation next week to review my blood tests results.

Dreamseeker had mentioned doing a live internet radio thing and I had been thinking of doing a skype conference to record for ATS media in order to provide an easy way for people to get current. We have a lot of new people coming into the thread and it's so massive now we're having to go back over old info quite a bit.

I U2U'd dreamseeker about partnering up but he /she is doing something already though I've asked if they would like to play the role of co-host for my broadcast.

I'd like to be in the "interviewed" role more than the "host" role to discuss the info I've managed to get and share and switch to more of a "host" role to interview some of the participants from the thread like Clouds and others who also have sources inside the CDC / WHO.

It would be great for the people from the thread to participate, especially those of you who have had the flu or cared for someone who has had it or currently has it.

So, I could use a decent "co-host" , please U2U me if you're interested and have a decent voice for podcasting. Please take into consideration if you have any concerns about it, fear the powers that be and all that stuff prior to starting.

I can set up a skype conference and provide a regular phone line as well for people who just want to call in. I'll have to look into doing that and what's involved and make sure my recording studio is all set up on this end.

I could use some help from a mod so I can list the info in here without breaking any rules and have it added to the ATS podcasting. I'd like to do it at a time when everyone can participate regardless of location and work and so on. I'm going to aim for late at night USA Central time, suggestions as to best time for our UK members would be most welcome. My goal is to do this tomorrow or Friday.

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Star 4 U!

Follow the Money???

See the lasts on this post...

Georgia health officials: swine flu cases now 27
www.mysouthwestga.com...

Warning increased as swine flu kills 149
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 7:10 AM
www.livenews.com.au...

wizzlewolf: HOORAY for being OLD! Older people have immunity to this H1N1 flu! YEAH! I am so glad I am old enough for something to be an advantage!! LOL less than 20 seconds ago from twhirl

Back Door:
~Problem~
Mexico economy shrinks 8.2 percent in 1Q
www.pr-inside.com...
Mexican Peso Declines From Six-Month High as Economy Plunges
www.bloomberg.com...
~Solution~
Multinationals to invest 6.3 billion dlrs in Mexico
news.id.msn.com...

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WOW!!! This would be so amazing and think you absolutely deserve "something fabulous" to happen because you are literally going out on a limb in order to probably save lives.

I am in awe and thank you for everything!

Okay..l.now how the HELL do they come up with the damn number 52?????

www.bloomberg.com...

Adults Older Than 52 May Resist Swine Flu, CDC Says

I understand the specious rationale but damn,this will really instill a flippin' "false sense of security" to that sector of the population who is typically MORE affected and I think it stinks to actually throw a number out there like it was written in blood or something.

Population-pruning at it's finest continues...sighing here.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by irishchic]

reply to post by yzzyUK


From what I understand, about 30 min. of sun without sunscreen before 10 a.m. or after 3 p.m. would be the optimal way to get natural vitamin D.

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I can interview... have done enough in my past... with script if you have... My accent however is a rather plummy English one so probably not what you want

Originally posted by winotka
reply to post by yzzyUK

 

From what I understand, about 30 min. of sun without sunscreen before 10 a.m. or after 3 p.m. would be the optimal way to get natural vitamin D.

Yes.... that is the safest way..... I'd go for more than 30 though... and it has to be more than just arms and legs out kind of thing

Originally posted by irishchic
reply to post by ecoparity

 

WOW!!! This would be so amazing and think you absolutely deserve "something fabulous" to happen because you are literally going out on a limb in order to probably save lives.

I am in awe and thank you for everything!

Okay..l.now how the HELL do they come up with the damn number 52?????

www.bloomberg.com...

Adults Older Than 52 May Resist Swine Flu, CDC Says

I understand the specious rationale but damn,this will really instill a flippin' "false sense of security" to that sector of the population who is typically MORE affected and I think it stinks to actually throw a number out there like it was written in blood or something.

Population-pruning at it's finest continues...sighing here.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by irishchic]

People older than 52 lived through a previous H1N1 epidemic and may have immunity from the previous exposure. It's a bit of a non story anyway considering that age group is not really at the high end of risk from this virus.

Infants and Children are highest risk group followed by adults 42 years of age and younger. The difference in these people being the strength of the immune response.

My state of health and smoking habit may have saved me from death by pig flu.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by ecoparity]

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I can tell you how people in the 50's would have handled this type of situation. I was a young child at the time.

Polio was a killer and a crippler and there was no vaccine for it. My mother would not allow my brother and I to go to the community pool or any other large gathering. She was very careful with us.

Needless to say we felt Mom was terrible for not letting us have fun like all the other neighborhood kids were.

There were just as many sheeple then as there are now. Thankfully my parents took the red pill long ago.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by dizziedame]

Study questions inactivated flu vaccine efficacy in children

The CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommend annual influenza vaccination for all children aged six months to 18 years.
The National Asthma Education and Prevention Program (3rd revision) also recommends annual flu vaccination of asthmatic children older than six months.
In order to determine whether the vaccine was effective in reducing the number of hospitalizations that all children, and especially the ones with asthma, faced over eight consecutive flu seasons, the researchers conducted a cohort study of 263 children who were evaluated at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota from six months to 18 years of age, each of whom had had laboratory-confirmed influenza between 1996 to 2006. The investigators determined who had and had not received the flu vaccine, their asthma status and who did and did not require hospitalization. Records were reviewed for each subject with influenza-related illness for flu vaccination preceding the illness and hospitalization during that illness.
They found that children who had received the flu vaccine had three times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not received the vaccine. In asthmatic children, there was a significantly higher risk of hospitalization in subjects who received the TIV, as compared to those who did not (p= 0.006). But no other measured factors—such as insurance plans or severity of asthma—appeared to affect risk of hospitalization.
“While these findings do raise questions about the efficacy of the vaccine, they do not in fact implicate it as a cause of hospitalizations,” said Dr. Joshi. “More studies are needed to assess not only the immunogenicity, but also the efficacy of different influenza vaccines in asthmatic subjects.”