Its time to defeat the powers that be - by adopting communisim!

reply to post by thefreepatriot


that idealism is what will breed lazyness you can't give anybody anything they will have to earn it but instead of having to go month to month worrying about paying all your bills on time all you have to worry about is figuring out what you want to do with your life and as long as you have the ability to work and the intelligence capabilities to work in the field you choose then go for it but if you dont want to work and sit around be lazy well that ideology should have been taken care of by their parents but if it sticks and nothing can be said or done to change their minds well then i hope they have some good friends or really nice parents( which i dont know anybody that would let their own kid live on the streets unless they felt they truly deserved it even then this kid would have to be pretty bad naturally, which honestly doesn't happen the way children behave has a direct link to the way their parents are and if the parents are stressed out over bills or watever then the kids only really see the stress which in turn stresses them out but if you were to eliminate the stress then people would be alot happier sorry somewhat of point but it came back to the whole picture

reply to post by infinite


One last time the autocratic socialist states are not communist.

You need to do some more research!!

I think they should just redistribute the land evenly and let us grow our OWN food and get the heck out of our lives...

reply to post by Shredderbeam



i have known children that show amazing abilities , are very intelligent yet there chances of becoming what they want to be are slim due to there parents social\economic standing in life.. At the same time I know people who are complete idiots and they are succesfull because there parents had the money and social standing.. it has nothing to do with abilities it has to do with how much money your family has...

Originally posted by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Shredderbeam

 

Not talking about being made equal by law... I am talking about being made equal regarding opportunities... this means if you want to be a doctor but because you have a poor family that doe not mean you cannot become a doctor... yes some poor people get to be doctors....but the numbers are very few..even with scholarships which is basically a lottery.. and financial aid(which barely pays for books at medical schoo)very few poor children get the education they would need to become doctors because there parents were poor... Do you think this is moral? do you think this is right?

I think that it's unfortunate, certainly, but I don't see it as immoral on my part. I have done nothing to get them into that situation, so I don't see why I should have to help them out.

I mean what if everyone got healthcare???? seriously?
That means they could be lazy, do nothing and expect to have healthcare?
If you don't work you should not get to see a doctor if you don't paid for it!

reply to post by wonderworld


It may surprise you but not everyone on this site is an American and therefore American history doesn't have much relevance to those people of which I am one.

This is a global discussion as in case you missed it we now live in a global economy.

This new global economy needs a better way to run where everyone in the world gets treated fairly

reply to post by Zealott


Not necessarily so - a centrally run state such as China or the Soviet Union often have a greater advantage over a state that operates capitalism - for example the soviets military equipment and spy network is pretty much accepted as being superior to the allies during the cold war so that presumption is actually not correct.

Back to the communism aspect; most people actually would strive fro development as its an inherent human need for society to progress and the people with the genius to do that will continue to do so.

Originally posted by Shredderbeam

Originally posted by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Shredderbeam

 

Not talking about being made equal by law... I am talking about being made equal regarding opportunities... this means if you want to be a doctor but because you have a poor family that doe not mean you cannot become a doctor... yes some poor people get to be doctors....but the numbers are very few..even with scholarships which is basically a lottery.. and financial aid(which barely pays for books at medical schoo)very few poor children get the education they would need to become doctors because there parents were poor... Do you think this is moral? do you think this is right?

I think that it's unfortunate, certainly, but I don't see it as immoral on my part. I have done nothing to get them into that situation, so I don't see why I should have to help them out.

Ya, its not my fault if someone is lazy... You are lazy you get what lazy people get.
If you get caught on fire cause yer stupid an I supposed to get fired to? NO
Because we are America, if you suck you get nothing.PERIOD!

sry mispost that was supposed to go to wonderworld

reply to post by count66


It is the British Eilte, their Bloodline and the Central Bank.

If you look at the countries that our Government and the U.K. government is trying to start wars with are all countries who will not let the Global Central Bank into the financial system.

Iran, Syria, Pakistan, North Korea and Venezuela

Also notice these are Nations with a lot of natural resources.

These countries have not allowed the Central Bank to step foot in their financial systems. And now you know why our Government and U.K. Government always demonize them and want to go to war with them.

Iraq was also one of these countries, they took care of that didn't they.

Russia and China are both getting fed up with the Central Bank and China now realizes this is a takeover scheme by the secret society of illuminated Elite bloodlines and bankers.

The secret society is not so secret anymore, and everyone is tired of their ancient rhetoric and control!

Their little New World Order game is just about over.

They know it, and that is why Gordon Brown and Obama along with others announced a New World Order at the G20 - they brought it out in the open so they can try to speed up and complete their Global takeover before millions more wake up to their plan and act against them with force.

Gordon Brown openly announcing a New World Order

They are terrified of the National Tea Parties coming up!

"REVOLUTION"

The tree of Liberty is thirsty and she is about to be fed!

The U.S. elite politicians are puppets for the Central Bank and Illuminated British. They waited 233 years to get America back. 33 is a major number for the Illuminati is it not?

It is 233 years since 1776 and it will be a big year for Eugenics and the New World Order takeover!

No one is chipping me or my family! No mark for me you Luciferian bass terds

[edit on 3-4-2009 by arizonascott]

Ive often thought that we could make a hybrid capitalistic/communistic system by creating two types of money.

Need money that only buys needs and is evenly distributed to every citizen of the government. Need money would be backed by gold and would have an expiration date to prevent hoarding. Licensed Vendors would then be able to dispense necessities for this need money and exchange it for want money from the government.

Want money would be controlled by the Central Bank and backed by investment and assets. Any want or investment would require Want money. In order to earn wan't money you would have to get a job or otherwise find some way to earn money. This would literally be just like the current dollar.

This would give everyone a minimum level of subsistence (A house, food etc.) but if they wanted things like Cable, TV's, Internet, Cars etc. they would have to earn enough Want money to purchase these items. It would harness greed in the best way possible without depriving others of their livelihood. With this system eventually most people would probably work at most part time but I think that is more beneficial to society. Droning isn't as beneficial to society as someone following their passions and innovation in order to better themselves and society with the time they gain from being freed from wage-slavery.

[edit on 3-4-2009 by Canis Lupus]

reply to post by arizonascott


very nice and how do you suppose we wake the millions, billions really. u2u me if you want

Originally posted by consciencious observer
reply to post by thefreepatriot

 

that idealism is what will breed lazyness you can't give anybody anything they will have to earn it but instead of having to go month to month worrying about paying all your bills on time all you have to worry about is figuring out what you want to do with your life and as long as you have the ability to work and the intelligence capabilities to work in the field you choose then go for it but if you dont want to work and sit around be lazy well that ideology should have been taken care of by their parents but if it sticks and nothing can be said or done to change their minds well then i hope they have some good friends or really nice parents( which i dont know anybody that would let their own kid live on the streets unless they felt they truly deserved it even then this kid would have to be pretty bad naturally, which honestly doesn't happen the way children behave has a direct link to the way their parents are and if the parents are stressed out over bills or watever then the kids only really see the stress which in turn stresses them out but if you were to eliminate the stress then people would be alot happier sorry somewhat of point but it came back to the whole picture

Jesus... so you still think that it has too do with brains ?? I will give you an example Joe lives in the inner city has a high IQ of 155.. gets straights As wants to be a doctor.. he lives in a section 8 apartment and his parents work at a factory joe's dream is to become a Doctor.... but knows he needs to score a scholarship in order to make this dream come true.. right after graduating with honors. joe starts to apply for scholarships to pay for the 200,000 in tuition fees he will incur during his stay at the university .. in the end he only gets a few scholarships that pay only 35,000 couple that with financial aid and it still does not cut it... so joe decides to get student loans...and starts working 2 jobs to cover tuition... his grades start to suffer and eventually he loses his scholarships.. .........

Another scenario

Joe lives with his family in west palm lives in a multimillion dollar house
Joe has barely graduated from high school with a c average and 2.0 gpa..his parents which are plastic surgeons push him to become a doctor.. Parents make nice donation to Nova University in order to get son accepted ... son gets accepted and does horribly during his tenure there.. however because of the big donations given by his parents the director pressures the teachers to let him pass.....


THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ABILITIES OR LAZYNESS... TO THINK THIS IS THE CASE IT IS IGNORANCE AT ITS PEAK

WE ARE A REPUBLIC, NOT A DEMOCRACY. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE YOU THERE IS NO LONGER AN AMERICAN DREAM THEN YOU'RE NUTS AND BITTER.

reply to post by mental modulator


tell that to the millions of people getting laid off... tell them there stupid and lazy... see what they would think of you

reply to post by mental modulator


Everyone in Europe pretty much has access to free healthcare - I don't see Europe being full of lazy people - that is such an uninformed argument

Originally posted by thefreepatriot

Originally posted by consciencious observer
reply to post by thefreepatriot

 

that idealism is what will breed lazyness you can't give anybody anything they will have to earn it but instead of having to go month to month worrying about paying all your bills on time all you have to worry about is figuring out what you want to do with your life and as long as you have the ability to work and the intelligence capabilities to work in the field you choose then go for it but if you dont want to work and sit around be lazy well that ideology should have been taken care of by their parents but if it sticks and nothing can be said or done to change their minds well then i hope they have some good friends or really nice parents( which i dont know anybody that would let their own kid live on the streets unless they felt they truly deserved it even then this kid would have to be pretty bad naturally, which honestly doesn't happen the way children behave has a direct link to the way their parents are and if the parents are stressed out over bills or watever then the kids only really see the stress which in turn stresses them out but if you were to eliminate the stress then people would be alot happier sorry somewhat of point but it came back to the whole picture

Jesus... so you still think that it has too do with brains ?? I will give you an example Joe lives in the inner city has a high IQ of 155.. gets straights As wants to be a doctor.. he lives in a section 8 apartment and his parents work at a factory joe's dream is to become a Doctor.... but knows he needs to score a scholarship in order to make this dream come true.. right after graduating with honors. joe starts to apply for scholarships to pay for the 200,000 in tuition fees he will incur during his stay at the university .. in the end he only gets a few scholarships that pay only 35,000 couple that with financial aid and it still does not cut it... so joe decides to get student loans...and starts working 2 jobs to cover tuition... his grades start to suffer and eventually he loses his scholarships.. .........

Another scenario

Joe lives with his family in west palm lives in a multimillion dollar house
Joe has barely graduated from high school with a c average and 2.0 gpa..his parents which are plastic surgeons push him to become a doctor.. Parents make nice donation to Nova University in order to get son accepted ... son gets accepted and does horribly during his tenure there.. however because of the big donations given by his parents the director pressures the teachers to let him pass.....


THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ABILITIES OR LAZYNESS... TO THINK THIS IS THE CASE IT IS IGNORANCE AT ITS PEAK

OR


Joe goes to community college and works full time at nights, he racks up enough scholarships at the CC that after 2 years it will be easy for him to transfer anywhere in the country and pursue his dream of becoming a doctor.

FREEPATRIOT, that has to be one of the stupidest responses I have ever heard from anyone in the history of blogging.

Any "-ism" is a way of controlling people. As long as there will be money and hierarchy (there is hierarchy in communism and money - for control) human race will be enslaved.

Your post is reflection of the sickness of our society - they (you) seek a leader and a system that takes care of you, and you are not willing to be free mentally from the fear and leadership and are begging for something to submit to and believe in. You don't want to know the truth - you are born to be free from all of it.

Thank you - for being brave and showing your own demons.