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Its time to defeat the powers that be - by adopting communisim!

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posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:40 PM
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o god you watch fox news i quit, you win im throwin in the towel there is no way i can contest with your gov induced hypnosis lmao!!!




posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:42 PM
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I have studied communism thank you and also realise that it never has been put into practice besides the first few years of the Soviet Union prior to Stalins takeover.

Other than that there hasn't been a communist system put in place anywhere in the world - and please don't quote autocratic socialist states at me as they are not communist

Perhaps you may do some research yourself



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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when you say study communism do you mean its history or what it could be.. if done correctly



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by consciencious observer
reply to post by mental modulator
 


o god you watch fox news i quit, you win im throwin in the towel there is no way i can contest with your gov induced hypnosis lmao!!!


Well that fellow is accusing me of having a drug habit, I don't even use asprin let alone oxymoran... The problem is there are all these unamerican people who want terrorists and the communism they bring in with socialistisms.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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Any form of government that puts power into a few over everyone else is inherently flawed.

So it stands to reason that the forms of government that put the MOST power into a few, outright, will be the most flawed. Which is what communism is.

True communism would be awesome and work spectacularly if you could ensure the people in power or running it were incapable of being corrupt in any way. Unfortunately THAT is a pipe dream.

Communism is a good idea that's just too utopistic. Just like anarchy.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by count66
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If you truly believe in freedom then its your duty to allow others to have the same freedoms you enjoy.

If not then you believe in evolutionary politics where only the fit survive - this is akin to many fascist ideals


I believe in freedom from coercion, yes, but your redefinition is not freedom.

As an anarcho-capitalist/libertarian, I'd say I'm fairly far from fascism.

Conscientious Observer: Why would destroying the monetary system solve anything? It's just a means of exchange that makes life easier, you know.

Also, I meditate frequently, have done hallucinogenic "spiritual type" drugs, and so on. It's not that I haven't experienced other viewpoints - I have, I just find the to be logically flawed.

Is there any way to multi-quote posts, so that I can reply to multiple posts in just one of my own?



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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I explained what an oxymoron is and its not drugs!!!!



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by consciencious observer
reply to post by mental modulator
 


o god you watch fox news i quit, you win im throwin in the towel there is no way i can contest with your gov induced hypnosis lmao!!!


Well that fellow is accusing me of having a drug habit, I don't even use asprin let alone oxymoran... The problem is there are all these unamerican people who want terrorists and the communism they bring in with socialistisms.

for one the drug is oxy cotin .oxymoron is exactly wat count said it was and the terrorists themselves arent even communist they are the people that we call our leaders



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:53 PM
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This is a quote taken from a definition of Fascism

" Fascist movements oppose any ideology or political system that gives direct political power to people as individuals through elected representatives rather than as a collective nation or race, that is deemed detrimental to national identity and unity and that protects and empowers people deemed weak and degenerate.

It is the weak that you don't seem to want to support as you don't wish to contribute to assist them

Correct me if I'm wrong.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by consciencious observer

Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by consciencious observer
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o god you watch fox news i quit, you win im throwin in the towel there is no way i can contest with your gov induced hypnosis lmao!!!


Well that fellow is accusing me of having a drug habit, I don't even use asprin let alone oxymoran... The problem is there are all these unamerican people who want terrorists and the communism they bring in with socialistisms.

for one the drug is oxy cotin .oxymoron is exactly wat count said it was and the terrorists themselves arent even communist they are the people that we call our leaders


You guys are just trying to end debate by calling me a drug person... The bottom line is
socialisms is terrorist... Period...



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:54 PM
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Communism - not to be mistaken with autocratic socialist states puts the power into many hands.

All people vote on everything - always and power is not centralised as it currently is.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Ok - I think we have explained how you have misinterpreted the word oxymoron and I even have posted a definition of what that word is.

Go read that post so you can understand the meaning of what I said.

By the way terrorism and socialism - I don't see how that link can be made but I feel I'm going down a blind alley with this particular debate



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by count66
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Everyone in Europe pretty much has access to free healthcare - I don't see Europe being full of lazy people - that is such an uninformed argument


FOX news said there is more terrorists in Europe, so maybe thats why there are more lazy people... But the point is we is Americans and we don't need more lazy people, they is lucky to make minimum wage. I mean if you want something you need to work for it and if you don't you mite become terrorist from the lazyness.



is this a joke??? FOX news said ??????? if you think fox news has credibility then 99% of the forum just lost any shred of credibility in you... Instead of stating this news network said this so it must be so... have you actually looked into it yourself? last time I checked europeans are healthier,happier, get more of an education and get more time off then us... I don't see all of europe becoming terrorists
oh and last I checked the 19 supposed hijackers weren't living off welfare...



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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Good question!





posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by thrustbucket
Any form of government that puts power into a few over everyone else is inherently flawed.

"So it stands to reason that the forms of government that put the MOST power into a few, outright, will be the most flawed. Which is what communism is. "
NO this is stalinism or maoism which is a corrupt form of communism in itself so please correct yourself and yes communism will be awesome and wonderful and superbly pleasant
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LONG
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it is done correctly so instead of questioning why not help make all the pieces fit i mean surely if you can come up with all the problems then the answers kind of have to be floatin around in there somewhere



"True communism would be awesome and work spectacularly if you could ensure the people in power or running it were incapable of being corrupt in any way. Unfortunately THAT is a pipe dream."

this is why voting must be unanimous amongst the people in our entirety and believe it or not there will be no leader but maybe a founder?

Communism is a good idea that's just too utopistic. Just like anarchy.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by thefreepatriot

Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by count66
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Everyone in Europe pretty much has access to free healthcare - I don't see Europe being full of lazy people - that is such an uninformed argument


FOX news said there is more terrorists in Europe, so maybe thats why there are more lazy people... But the point is we is Americans and we don't need more lazy people, they is lucky to make minimum wage. I mean if you want something you need to work for it and if you don't you mite become terrorist from the lazyness.



is this a joke??? FOX news said ??????? if you think fox news has credibility then 99% of the forum just lost any shred of credibility in you... Instead of stating this news network said this so it must be so... have you actually looked into it yourself? last time I checked europeans are healthier,happier, get more of an education and get more time off then us... I don't see all of europe becoming terrorists
oh and last I checked the 19 supposed hijackers weren't living off welfare...


FOX is the only patriot thing left in America! If FOX didn't remind us of the patriotics we need to practice we would be come lazy and terrorists. The terrorists was from IRAQ and they was likely socialists.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:08 PM
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Fox is not "real news" it actually lowers the IQ of those that watch it.. the real news should be coming from alternative media sources and self-education...and common sense... here is an example of your typical fox news viewer.. and yes an oxymoron is not a drug.... no one here is calling you a drug addict..although watching fox news prob does kill a few brain cells
in the end you haven't even realized what I wrote regarding the the current system which unfairly treats the poor and favors the rich.. it has nothing to do with ability but it does have too do with how big your pockets are... if you still think we live in an equal society then keep watching fox news....



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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The terrorists in Iraq were nationalists and Islamic terrorists - not socialists as far as I'm aware



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:11 PM
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the only patriot "thing" left in america is ron paul... and no the terrorists were not from iraq they were from saudi arabia.. ..and no they were not socialists.. lol this should be put on comedy central good stuff



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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and this folks is a prime example of why we need to do more than just discuss what needs to be done and actually get something achieved but as ignorant as he sounds he cannot help but be that because this is after all what they wanted unfortunately for them there are alot of people that are realizing the truth but the progress is no where near efficient enough to actually accomplish anything



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