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Originally posted by yanqui9
Long time lurker here at ATS, been visiting on an off for ages.
Yes, during the French Revolution, the King and lots of royalty did get their heads cut off... but most escaped and survived in exile in other lands where they recovered their wealth and once again lived high on the hog. Yes, the fall of the Roman Empire did wipe out most of the old Roman aristocracy, but then the Germanic tribal leaders just swiped all their gold and became the new aristocracy. Even in the Russian Revolution, most of the old aristos escaped.
In this final MadMax collapse in which the normal six year old girl will be consigned to rape, starvation, and even death, those you blame it on will not suffer. They have what are called exit plans, contingencies, etc. Even IF they lose much of their weath and even if SOME of them do pay with their lives, most will escape. They might have to settle for doing their own laundry or living on one of their Bermuda islands, but they will do fine. The survivors will use their financial and social status and know-how to rebuild their situation.
For a true 'change' and revolution, you not only need to get rid of those in power that cause the problems but you have to make sure that the 'leaders' who get ahold of their loot dont just go out and become the new aristos. That wont happen in the chaos that would happen with a general collapse. Just a few billion dead peasants. I'm a wimp, I dont want to see a few billion dead peasants so that the Bush clan can survive in their barn shelters and rebuild their kennybunkport hideouts in the new idyllic land to become our new lords.
Originally posted by hadriana
I don't even SMOKE pot....(I used to sometimes, before kids) but I just want the drug war to be over and hemp to be legalized, and I don't want to see any more plants made illegal. I think nature is sacred, and to make a plant illegal, to me, is like making my GOD illegal.
Originally posted by danj3ris
reply to post by Charis
I realize your point, but just like a number of posters here who claim that those of us who answered yes must want doom and gloom, you have failed to understand the reasoning behind wanting collapse.
The collapse of the Roman empire led to the dark ages. But history did not end there.
Reformation, Renaissance, Enlightenment.. do any of these ring a bell?
Things change, and if history is any indication at all, they change for the better.