Are you HOPING for a complete collapse and chaos to happen?

reply to post by johnny2127

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I want true change, a move toward smaller government and the collapse of massive industry.

That's what I want, and I don't think it'll happen until the $ collapses.

I want to live in a smaller community, where people work together to sustain themselves in tune with their environment.

I would rather see this happen due to the collapse of the $ and for society to move away from a monetary system and the current focus on personal gain, than have this happen due to catastrophic war.

The current path we are all on will lead to such a war. It would be better to see the $ collapse now and see people take the initiative in forming communities, than to see things continue as they are now and develop into global war to secure the dominance of one nation.

I don't think the opinions of people here suggest that we are all in love with the idea of chaos and destruction (though some are intent just to scare others), most suggest things because we know a change is needed to move civilization in the right direction.

Globalisation has damaged us all (the protesters twenty years ago were spot on), and it absolutely has to end.

Generate your own through solar and wind power.



Why would you need it if your job no longer exists?



Grow your own.



No, it wouldn't "kill" most people



So "they" are going to seize all homes across the nation? What with? What are they going to do with them?
Even if you are caught at the start of this and find yourself evicted, thousands of communities will spring up on land seized from corporations and government.



Couldn't agree more.

I wish somthing would happen soon. Im tired of the gov. I want things to be like the old western movies. come and go when you please, and do what you want. Lets get this party started. Just how to go about it and still be around afterwords is the question. Guess well have to wait for the gov to do it for us.

I think its very hard to root for what would kill millions and would cause severe misery. But change does need to happen. I am just praying that the price is not millions or even thousands of lives....

No I personally don't want to see society collapse.

I saw first hand what happens to a nation when you remove all semblance of control from it. It makes a third world country quickly turn into a fourth world one.

In Panama, hours after Operation Just (be)Cause, there was wide scale looting, rioting and the bulk of that society walked around in new shoes.
(Stolen ones.)

Then naturally, with most of the stores looted, apart from those 'protected' by the owners, usually with extreme violence; there was no food for a few days. Then things tended to happen when us soldiers we not around. (Martial law only works if/while your soldiers are standing there FYI.) No few stabbings 'happened' as people settled scores, as they could get away with it due to no police to say otherwise. I do not doubt rapes happened either.

Then there was no one to haul the trash, it started getting to be as tall as the Berlin Wall in some places. Sewage lines broke, so there was open sewage washing out onto the streets in some places. Already poor living conditions got worse, much worse.

And this was while people still had power and radios etc!

No I don't want a collapse, mainly because it is good to have:

Mail, not so much the junk mail, but mail.
Flush toilets that work.
Bakeries & fresh bread.
Refrigerator and cold beer.
Lights and all my other electronic gear.
Fresh water when I turn a tap.
Forums, Google facts and information on the Internet.
Flipping open my cell phone and being able to talk with my family across country. (Or other phones.)
Having medicines for when you are sick or injured.
Heat in the winter and cool air in the summer.
Being able to get in a car and drive to distant places.
New Movies!
New Books!
New Music!
Radio, News, TV, Satellite feeds!

It's not to say I could not survive without them, if I had to, but I rather like the amenities we have now.

And while I can make bread, beer, purify water, look up herbal cures and what not, hunt, fish, so on and such forth. I don't want to become the bastard I would have to become in order to keep my family and friends safe.

Lastly, its ok to want change, but only a fool wants to do so by starting the fire in their own house.

M.

reply to post by DaddyBare

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hee hee... Good post....Facts, common sense, and a little humor!!!

Star 4 you!!!