Are you HOPING for a complete collapse and chaos to happen?

I was thinking about it, and was wondering:

Do you want the world and economies to collapse and chaos to reign?

Is a complete collapse and the ensuing chaos needed?

It seems like many people are hoping for this. Seems like many people not only are preparing for it, but really want it to happen. They want to watch the world burn.

Do you? If so, why?

As for myself, its both. I think some collapse is needed for things to be healthier in the long run. But I don't want some massive collapse, anarchy and countless to die.

What do you all think?

[edit on 10-3-2009 by johnny2127]

I personally do.

But I don't know why, I'm really just tired of what the world has come to.
But also a part of me doesn't want it to be chaotic. More discussions on this around the site though.

Most of me wants it to happen..im all for peace, dont get me wrong, but obviously paper and penmenship just prmotes and hides mroe scandal and lies for th powers to be. Its well past time, peolpe wake up and see things for what they really are, and not masked up. Its pastt ime, for teh greedy CEO's , corporations and governemnt people to be exposed for who and what they are to all..and what their hiding form us. I am willing to bet, the millions they reluctantly spent on helping others, wouldnt even comapre to society collasping,,ide totaly bet my life savings, millions would wanna help eachother, and $0 cost. That would show them whos in charge

Yes Im hoping and waiting.

At least the chaos would be honest. The change is required for our race to break from the mire its gotten itself into.

I think people need change, and I think it's why we vote for change every 8 or so years(I bet non-US elections are similar).

The world has almost become stagnant since WWII due to cold war mentality. Revolution is nearly if not completely dead. I think that's what people need. Real change, and the only way real change can occur is through some sort of turmoil.

War is hell, but it's not the hell it used to be. So how else can we 'shake things up?'

I do. I honestly do.

I'm sick of what our elected politicians have done to this country. Worse yet, I'm sick of the electorate that puts these bums into office.

Order out of Chaos.

Our time is now.

[edit on 9-3-2009 by MOFreemason]

I'm in between.

I want it to collapse and chaos to reign, but then again I don't.

My reason for it to collapse and chaos to reign is because I feel that is the only way to regain our freedom. I want chaos to reign because I want all the gun grabbers to realize that guns in private citizens hands is a blessing and also show the big government socialist that government is the problem not the solution.

I don't want it to collapse and chaos to reign because lots of people will die and even though people think they are prepared there is noway to prepare for a situation like that.

In this situation I'm going to choose the former. I'm willing to take the chance.

It is a tough call. There are chances for great benefit to everyone, but the mindless deaths and suffering might be too great for the potential reward. I mean I do not doubt my ability to handle it. I admit I could make a fatal miscalculation and die. I also know that I would not be left to my own devices in the matter either.

Roving bands of the hungry taking my shelter or food sources or water is very real as would those trying to regain control over the survivors.

By the numbers, I give myself 85% chance if there are no outside influences and maybe 35%-40% at best if there are. Of course odds increase if it is only a partial collapse or a short term situation of only 1-5 years.

[edit on 9-3-2009 by Ahabstar]

I've prepared for it, I'm ready for it, and intend to survive it.

Do I WANT it? No. Do we NEED it? Yeah.

Not only this country, but pretty much every country has fallen into a state of decay, ruled by political correctness and political corruption.

We need a reset, BAD. I think it's coming. Our population has become sheep, with an entitlement mentality. We have millions in this country alone that do nothing, contribute nothing, but expect everything to be given to them.

We have countries that want to destroy America, and those in power now seem to want to help them.


Bring it. I'm ready. I know many others that are ready. Let's get it done, and deal with it now, so our children won't have to.

same i hope it goes down then we can all make our own choices, if your going to get killed its because your somewhere that your going to get killed don't hang out where you don't know if your going to live or die find a safe haeven find people you trust and gieeeeetttt out. but also yeah I really don't want people to die I can't even comprehend how many people have already died because of our stupidity and i feel sorry that i can never speak to them or hear their story but the way things are now is not right WE need to stand up and unite as a whole as humanity take up our responsability as sentient beings as beings aware of our surroundings and of the pain and suffering in this world to be caretakers for those who are oblivious and those who do not know or we can simply leave them to their lives, we can't we can't seperate ourselves far enough thats when we go to space.

I'm patiently waiting for someone to break the glass and slam down the big red reset button. I am completely aware of what this means in doing so, but unfortunately for alot of people out there running out of options quickly it may come too late. I just hope that everyone is preparing for the chaos that will quickly ensue when TSHTF. I don't however think the chaos will last long before people start helping one another out again as we get back to basics. Until then I prepare and wait.

Im hoping the planet will explode.
Yesterday.
It seems the only answer.

I just want people to wake up... atleast here in the United States people need to wake up... and especially in my community.

And if America needs a good punch in the face for this to happen... then so be it.

I just pray for the children... they're the only people that are innocent in all this mess.


A friend of mine told me today that he's done with the news... done with staying informed on this potential crisis, and done with denying ignorance...

He woke up... and it hurt him to the point that he'd rather go back to sleep... I don't blame him. He knows the real truth, and I think the only truth he's searching for now is how strong his faith in God is.

I think the chaos is unavoidable at this point... And I think a lot of the 9-11 truth movement are so mad at the public that's ridiculed them.... that they are starting to lose hope.

Maybe some of us already feel as if we are living in chaos after discovering the truth about 9-11, and there is some part of our mind that wishes others would wake up to real chaos we are living in... We warned them that things were gonna get bad, and they told us that we were paranoid... And a lot of them still tell me I'm a crazy, paranoid, and delusional... Well in a weird way I'm jealous of them, because I want my ignorance back.



Do I want chaos to happen?... no
Do I want the economy to collapse?... no
Do I want the people to rise up and take back what was rightfully ours to begin with?... yes.

It just seems like only two of the above are possible at this point.

Let it collapse. I'm sick of the greed it has caused. What's funny if we all went right back to work doing what we do everyday the system would continue operating even without currency.

Remain calm folks, gather yourselves, and prepare to work with your friends, family, and neighbors to do positive things. Don't freak out that WalMart is closed. Find a stream a lake, fish, or learn to cook yourself a bird You can eat worms. We aren't accustomed to a lifestyle like that but may have to until you get a garden up and going. It's not the end of civilization although many would believe it was.

Im hoping for it and waiting.

Why? Because perhaps on the other side of the fence, we will see more accountability and more honesty. The current system makes me sick but I don't quite understand why yet.

A little collapse chaos and general confusion build character

also gives you those stories you tell your kids like how I had to walk 20 miles to school, up hill both ways. in the snow, fighting off man eating alligators!

This one is going to be bad.. people today know how to do almost nothing for themselves. forget cooking lets see that hip hop artiest build a campfire...
Remember the show with Hilton being sent to live with country folk, picture that a millions times over all going on at the same time...

You bet I'm ready for it. ...Cause no one will be watching the Lexus dealer

[edit on 9-3-2009 by DaddyBare]

Yess!!! I need complete collapse. I'd do absolutely anything to get them aliens out of my head. Just thinking about typing something like that they start making my stomach growl like crazy. I'd do absolutely completely anything!

I want the complete financial, moral, total collapse, total anarchy, total chaos. Has to be murder everywhere... Has to be everywhere, everything, everybody... massive destruction.

Nothing less is sufficient... I mean, them aliens been driving me nuts for like 4 years now... lets end this garbage with a bang!

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Oh please, let it all crash and burn so we can start out all over again.

Why? Because I believe it's our only hope and prayer. This world, these governments, have gone totally mad with power and control and domination over our lives. Every year they keep adding more laws and more control, and it's reached an intolerable level now after that whole 9-11 ordeal.

And, capitalism is a greedy dead end game. And, socialism is immoral dead end game. I'd rather play survivalism for a while myself. Yup.

After the crash, people will be FORCED to take care of themselves, for themselves. And, those that won't .. well .. let nature take its course and deal with them. (I can hear them crying now .. "Where did the welfare office go? Who is gonna feed me? Whaaaaa! Where did nanny go to? Whaaaa!")

Something is royally screwed up within the human gene pool too, and I think a totally crash economy and a few months of total chaos will allow us to deal with THAT too. And, we can solve this over-population problem at the same time too.

I want to get back to the basics, a simpler life. I'm sick of this hectic way of life now. This form to fill out, this application to be completed, these bills to be paid, this new law or regulation to comply with, this new damn tax to budget for, that new social issue to resolve, this meeting to go to, that thing to worry about, another new insurance bill to pay, junk mail, extended warranties, solicitors, bureaucrats, politicians, religious factions, whinny crybaby adults, eminent domain, OSHA, social security, contracts, fiat money, pollution, over-population, crap GM food, rush hour traffic, blah blah blah the list goes on and on and on ... Is this the world YOU want to live in? It doesn't look like the one I was hoping for.

Dang it, I want a cabin in the woods near a lake or river (with NO property TAXES involved), a bit of land to farm, a few neighbors to trade with, a horse or two, some basic tools, something good to smoke in the evening, a night sky where I can see the stars again, a cow or two and some chickens, a few other things .. Yup.

After the crash and total chaos and mayhem, and maybe a plague or two, and an 89% reduction in the worlds population .. ... I'll be dancing with delight! I am really looking forward to the post-2012 years!

The new world I envision looks like a pretty picture I could hang on a living room wall. The one we live in today looks like something I feel like wiping my feet on.

Come on, press the reset button. I'm not getting any younger folks, so the sooner we get this started, the sooner us survivors can start really enjoying our lives as I think they were meant to be enjoyed.

I undersand why this current system sucks... I also understand the otherside of the fence is going to be much worse.

A food crisis in America doesn't sound like fun.
Gangs, Thugs, and Outlaws storming the streets doesn't sound like fun.
Watching your friends and family suffer doesn't sound like fun.

But make no mistake... if I had no family, no children to take care of, no wife, and not that many friends...

I'd be welcome a little chaos.