Originally posted by _damon
Originally posted by redhorse
Originally posted by spec2
You People Are Crazy.
[edit on 11-3-2009 by spec2]
Creating a chaotic circumstance only means that the ruthless predators are in their element. Chaotic times bring war lords and mini-despots; Who
will use most of you whiny-but-I-despise-the-world-so-it-and-everyone-else-in-it-should-die types for the ignorant, easily manipulated Tools that you
are. Most of the rest of you will simply die. And for the privileged few who will rise to the top and become the brutal War Lord or mini-despot,
well I guess congratulations and lucky you.
What do you suggest wise one? Is there anything that is not useless we could do instead wishing for chaos? Pray god?
What does god have to do with the price of eggs? I'm no athiest but I'm a firm believer in '... you have to keep pushing while you are praying.'
There is no god that is going to hand us a solution regardless of how much we pray, genuflect, or sacrifice animals/children/styrofoam.
As an aside; I'm wondering if your not making some interesting assumptions about me though...
I certainly don't have all the answers but there are things I think that could be done to help (just help, mind you; steer this out of the ditch).
I also think that almost any 'solution'(s) I present here are going to be shot down as insufficiently draconian/bloody, or lacking in true
understanding of human beings, or just stupid, or (some of it) communist, or what have you, by the vocal half howling for blood. Mostly because we
will have a difference of opinion about the basic underpinnings of human nature.
However, one truth about human nature that I will expound upon here, is that the marginalized will predatorially seize an opportunity to become the
Haves instead of the Have Nots, when it presents itself.
One can (and most of the Hoping-for-armageddon-crowd will) justify the violence inherent in that with placations like 'freedom fighters', and even
'justice'. Possibly the more intellectually prone among you may even site something like 'redistribution of wealth'.
But, in the end all of that is just one group of monkeys overthrowing another group of monkeys while they scuffle over dwindling resources.
Brutal, base, violent, nasty, animals, railing against the 'injustice' of brutal, base, violent, nasty, animals. Nothing more. (Too, too funny
really.) The only difference between us and say... a wolf, or baboon, is that we have the ability (and apparent need) to justify the manifestations
of these instincts with a bunch of inspiring words, and fluff, and lies.
Besides, it's more fun to indulge the instincts and think about the coming opportunity to shoot ones neighbor (whom you didn't really like anyway...
He probably sells meth... Or, molests children... or eats kittens... or something), then it is to stop to think, and look for actual solutions.
Funny thing is, many of the ones demanding the End of Things, are of precisely the same stripe as those who have created this oligarchy we have now
that is causing all of the trouble.
The only difference there is that by chance circumstance, some minor character flaw, or just a flat inability to adapt to the current system, they
are currently on the bottom instead of the top. Which means that given the opportunity to be The Big Man they will almost certainly be more brutal
than what we have now. Because of where they came from, because they are bullies, and because their violence will create a circumstance that will
demand it in order to stay in power or just flat survive.
On another note, somebody mentioned the fall of Rome. It took Europe centuries to recover from that. Not years. Not decades. Centuries. And life
was short, nasty, and brutal for most people during that time. Just a thought.