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No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Originally posted by Eisley
The issue is not about where McCain was born because he made his records public and because he was born on a military installation in Panama.
If Obama was born on a military installation in Kenya that's fine, but we want somebody to come out and make that information public. The fact that he won't state directly and has proceeded to seal his records indicates that there is a problem.
Originally posted by 5thElement
reply to post by whitewave
So, how exactly is your own proof of citizenship better then Obama's ?
Are you implying that my proof of citizenship is actually a joke depending on what kind of job I apply for ?
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I personally believe Obama has more right to be President than Bush did, and this solider didnt seem to have a problem taking orders from Bush.
Doesnt the constitutional oath say
'' I will protect and serve my nation yadda yadda .... ''
Well, Bush null and voided that Oath, when he allowed 911 to occur, lied about it, liked about a nations value, sent American to an unessecary war, and ruined the nation through economic mismanagement.
There's got to be some under-tone here making all these people get their panties in a knot.
Is it because he's black?
Lived in another nation?
Is it because he stands up for himself?
Crikey I dont know..
somethings for sure, you cant pick and chose when you sign on that dotted line.
Originally posted by nj2day
Unfortunately, the soldier will end up in court martial...
Obama has been sworn in as president... Thus, he is president, even if he is ineligible.
The military will tell him that its not his job to ask credentials of his president, and that he took an oath to follow the orders of the president.
If he follows through with his dissent, it will result in a court martial and possibly jail time.
Even if you doubt his eligibility for presidency, He still currently holds the position, and thus, still is the president.
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Heres what makes me ignore this whole '' Birth certificate '' theory.
When you’ve got a totally corrupt and power-hungry Republican government, backing a republican candidate, I’m sure as sugar that this corrupt government would of done what ever it took to release the fraudulent document and prove that the democratic candidate was indeed not a natural born citizen, if infact the document existed.
If Obama's documentation is fake, why didn’t the republican candidate and government at the time prove it? why didn’t they even question it during the election? they had the power, the means, the access.. and the motive...
So why did they just ignore it?
He has released some documentation, that government officials confirmed were legit, and proved he was a natural born US citizen.
You saying you want the absolute original?
Well, in saying that, would you trust your computer monitor or TV then if it was presented , or will you then turn around and say
'' That could of been TV manipulation, I want to see it in my cold hard hands ''
Well, when its in your hands, will you then just say....
'' This could be fake, how do I know this document 'IS' the original? I want to ...........
point is, this will never end... and lets be honest, it has nothing to do with his birth certificate.
[edit on 24-2-2009 by Agit8dChop]