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As various former governmental insiders in The Disclosure Project have said publicly, like Clifford Stone: there are a number of underground and underwater, fully-operational alien bases around the world and also a large one in the Moon. The aliens are already here, have been in various degrees for many centuries, and remain, fortified with many interstellar battleships (traditionally cigar-shaped but also triangular shaped) along with many highly armed probes of various shapes, e.g., spherical, cylindrical, etc.
Originally posted by headlightone
Too many 4th Density negative beings on this thread working for the orion soul memory complex . Most of you are trapped disincarnates peddling doom and mischief. Read Hidden Hand on ATS very informative
YOU all know who you are
Originally posted by Mr Green
How would a 4th density being be on a thread? who are the Orion soul memory complex? Who are the trapped discarnates peddling doom how can they be on a thread?
Is Hidden Hand a thread?
Are all 4th density beings negative and taking our energy? Do they all as SS,Naga states consume us.
Are you saying 4th density beings are working on this thread?
Originally posted by malcr
Now now don't let logic get in the way of a good story!
Then there is the Orion Empire Group. Their purposes in visiting you are more along the Negative lines. They mainly target the ones you have called "Lightworkers". They try to put them off their assignments and try to spread fear. They will not actually 'harm' you physically. Mainly their modus operandi is to restrict you, and deflect you from your path. They often engage in psychic attacks that the 'Lightworker' is unaware of, but it does often drain away much of their energy, and make them lack motivation.
“Do the Orion/occultist groups specifically target civilizations before they become a social memory complex.”
Yes, but that does not make them immune to targeting others too, if they allow any chinks to appear in their armour. In short, the Orion Empire are 4th Density Negative. They are "lost" in the sense that they have drifted so far from their true nature, that despite many attempts, we have been unable to reach them, and help them to develop. They exist within their Group Soul Complex, mostly as a group of discarnate entities, within the Astral Planes of the planets they visit. They have no intention of 'returning Home', and instead seek to feed off of Negative Energy, to keep themselves going, as they are disconnected from their inherent natural Life-Force, by refusing to abide by the Infinite Creator's Incarnational Principles.
Originally posted by SS,Naga
Mr Green - I would like to comment on this, hope you don't mind!
You say your husband witnessed (saw) a croc featured reptilian? and that it didn't look like a shadow being (people)? Well, I hope you didn't think one post covered all the territory. So, let me cover it a bit more, yes?
What my SoulSelf (Higher Self) conveyed to me was that the Reptilians fromt he Moon were the Shadow People. I'd believe my soulSelf before anything else on this Earth: and I just happen to be one of those [rare] people that can recognize Soul communication! (not easy to learn).
The amount of information was fantastic, nor is it conveyable here (mostly for me).
Pay attention, because you are going to like this Post! (I think)
The gist of it is this: 4th dimensional dwelling reptilians appear as the Shadow Beings /People: henceforth called SP's for short. They can take any form they desire, but for some reason, the Shadow state/appearance, is energetically natural to them.
There exists reptilians who have 3rd dimensional forms (bodies): these are different then their immediate superiors: the 4th dimensionals: however, both can maneuver within the 4th, and both aspects of their self-expressions love humans (they're delicious!). While that doesn't cover much, it increases the likelihood of what your husband experienced. I myself have caused them to change forms (inner technique). Don't doubt it! They can be very scary.
Now, this morning before leaving for work, I'd read your above quoted post. Got home, and had to defend don Juan's accused drug-addiction, and also post regarding galaxies eating galaxies: strangely, I'd fav'ed the article, and it was 'no longer available!' (what luck, eh?) I made do, as it is science, and energetics.
Then, while searching, I came across this, which should do wonders for your understanding! Remember the sequence of discovery I gave, and also where my information came from! Talk about timely synchronicity!:
Don Juan said:
"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so.
"They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance.
"Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary and egomaniacal.
"In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver - stupendous of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me?! The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now."
(The Active Side of Infinity, Carlos Castaneda, 1998; pp. 218-220, excerpts)
What have the Cassiopaeans said about these very things?
Q: (L) The Sumerian story of the creation of human beings involves a story where they say they killed a god and mixed his blood and parts to mix with mud and then planted it in these female "gestation" goddesses and that this is where the human race came from. Did someone actually kill a "god", break his soul in pieces, and thereby make the human race?
A: Symbolism and not correct event sequence.
Q: (L) What was that story about? What was the real seed event?
A: Lizard beings genetically altering the human race after battle for their own feeding purposes.
Q: (L) When did these events that these Sumerian stories are talking about take place?
A: 309,000 years ago, approx. Reflection passed down through psychic memory channel.
Origin of the Shadow Beings
Now, please note that the Mud Shadows are the Shadow Beings (People), or SP's, who are the Reptilians, just exactly as I received it myself.
As far as the given date goes, well, subjectivety of psychic dates are always highly suspect.
[edit on 23-2-2009 by SS,Naga]