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Originally posted by Annee
Let's see. Women who choose abortion are murderers. Women who choose to keep the baby are ruining some young man's life by making him pay hundreds/thousands of dollars a month he could use for himself and his life. These men want the right to force the woman carrying their child to abort - - again making the woman a murderer for killing her own unborn child. The man of course gets off scot free - - because no "living" thing was living in their body.
Yep! I got it - - its crystal clear.
No, once again...the man can not decide what to do with a fetus...that is the property of the mother. The man is responsible if this fetus becomes an actual, fully developed person that can live without being attached to the mother. After it is born, the child is the responsibility of the parents...before, being attached to the mother's uterus, it is only hers.
Originally posted by Wehali
If ANYONE still thinks the Vatican should be listened to, they SERIOUSLY need to check up on its history and stop living in ignorance.
Originally posted by Terapin
West Coast, are you willing to adopt a crack baby? Seriously.
So many of the religious zealots, anti freedom of choice crowd, talk about the adoption option, yet so few are willing to adopt ANY baby. The number of orphans in the world is horrendous. Before anyone talks about the adoption option, they must insure it is a real option, as it clearly has not worked. A meaningless option is no option at all. It is just a smoke screen for religious oppression.
As I said earlier, I am not pro abortion, no one is, but I am for allowing the individual involved to make her own decision without outside meddling in her rights. That makes me pro choice, not pro abortion and there is a difference, even if the religious right wishes to try and cloud the issue.
*In the interest in disclosure, I have worked with orphans in the US, as well as abandoned children living in the streets overseas.
This whole post made absolutely no sense to me. Please explain where you are headed with this, so I can understand.
Originally posted by TasteTheMagick
reply to post by StevenDye
If that's the choice you want to make. Yes.
I think you're taking the situation I'm talking about a little bit out of proportion though. The children in YOUR situation are already their own sentient beings, they are not growing inside one of your organs.
EDIT: Yes she should. It's not murder because murder is illegal...look it up. I'm sick of anti-abortionists using the word murder without realizing exactly what it means. You're not a "human being in the womb", you are an undeveloped life form growing in someones uterus.
[edit on 1/25/09 by TasteTheMagick]
[edit on 1/25/09 by TasteTheMagick]
Originally posted by VicSage
The problem with this issue is that there is no objective truth to what defines life.
Lewis Black said the same thing; you don't see these anti-abortion Christians out adopting a bunch of crack babies...no that's something JESUS would have done!
The adoption "answer" again. Seriously naive. There are plenty of babies up for adoption. They just don't happen to be white. This is a fact - not a race issue. Do I even need to mention the Gay adoption issue?
Originally posted by donwhite
Americans have come a long way, proof is in the election of Barack Obama by 8 million votes. But the 58 million voters who turned away from Obama did that for a reason. Or for several reasons. But I assure you one reason was racism! Pure and simple.