Hamas to Kill Jewish Children All Over World

reply to post by johnny2127


you don`t drop artilery or 1000lb bombs when you think something might be near - get the speiclaist on foot - there in teh zone to deal with it.

reply to post by masonwatcher


The reason Isreal had so much problems with Hezbollah is that Abraham was still legally married to Hagar.

In the last two years Abraham divorced Hagar and reconciled with his real wife. They just had a son.

Hamas is totally screwed...You all get to watch it.

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by johnny2127

 

you don`t drop artilery or 1000lb bombs when you think something might be near - get the speiclaist on foot - there in teh zone to deal with it.

NO NO NO. The IDF has some of the most accurate artillery in the world thanks in large part to the presumed Mossad assisinated Gerald Bull. The IDF has used it to great effect plenty of times so its nothing new.

They hit objects they intend to period. Also they are using the recently US taxpayer suppllied small diameter bomb which is dealy accurate AND the ability to jam the weapon is beyond the capability of Hamas of the Palistinians

There is little chance that any of thier artillery went off target, but rather was delibratly targeted

Originally posted by FredT
fair is fair it seems since the IDF is targeting schools these days. What next hospitals?

U.N. officials say they provided their location coordinates to Israel's army to ensure their buildings in Gaza are not targeted.
news.yahoo.com...

An eye for an eye as these religious wackos ON BOTH sides seem to beleive

Actually grace, forgiveness and restitution goes hand in hand in Islam. Where there is Sharia, a judge may hand down a capital sentence but the victim's family can intercede. In situations of the victim being the bread winner, blood money is paid to sustain his/her family and a prison sentence is given. Duration is based on the severity of the crime.

Israel has a lot of restitution to pay otherwise the problems will continue.

reply to post by masonwatcher


Masowatcher, I get what you are saying, so maybe I should rephrase my question. For sake of this question we will assume your premise is correct that Israel created Hamas for the purposes you describe. Ok, so with that in mind, have any of the militant Islamic organizations operating in Palestine that aren't controlled by Israel, made any mistakes or committed atrocities that you don't agree with? If so, what?

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reply to post by masonwatcher


I agree with you on that aspect. The problem is the extremist on both sides (Yes Jew and Muslin) have perverted thier texts to support thier actions. Eliminate those two groups and we may get somewhere.

reply to post by huckfinn


Throwing around mythology and I think the fake photo suits you. Better than looking at the real visage.

reply to post by FredT



Israel extremists very much exist:

We must not forgive Iran’s president.
We must not forgive the despicable Jews who met with him and kissed him.

www.ynet.co.il...


Israeli jews `must not forgive` iranian jews.

great unity within the faith then.

reply to post by Harlequin


Extremism comes with religion unfortunately. While the vast majority of a religion's followers can be peaceful and spiritual people, there will always be extremes of every religion. Very sad to see.

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reply to post by FredT


It is not a religious issue for the Palestinians. They are Muslims and Christians. Most of the Christian Palestinians have manage to get refugee status in the West but many remain and are in Gaza too.

Zionism is secular but exploits religion to in still fervour in settlers. The original immigrants were mainly socialist and survivors of war torn Europe who were driven by the Holocaust to go to Palestine and not Judaism. All the Chief Rabbis before WW2 were against zionism but the were killed in the Holocaust.

Fatah and traditional Palestinian resistance has always been secular. Hamas was formed to create division amongst the religious, secular and Christian Palestinians but they became nationalist and focused on fighting Israel. The religious aspect of Hamas was inserted deliberately in its formation.

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reply to post by johnny2127


and that is very very true - it takes a small amount of zealots to tar everyone - and this is the case with whats going on in gaza - a small number of idiots are spoiling the lives of those who want nothing more than to live - on both sides

Originally posted by johnny2127
reply to post by masonwatcher

 

Masowatcher, I get what you are saying, so maybe I should rephrase my question. For sake of this question we will assume your premise is correct that Israel created Hamas for the purposes you describe. Ok, so with that in mind, have any of the militant Islamic organizations operating in Palestine that aren't controlled by Israel, made any mistakes or committed atrocities that you don't agree with? If so, what?

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The only 'Muslim Militants' caught in Palestine was Al Qeida and they were quickly arrested. Turned out they were Mossad poseurs. Normally Shin Beit do these tricks but I think it was a special project to open an Al Qeida chapter in Palestine.

www.smh.com.au...

www.highbeam.com...

www.antiwar.com...

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Hamas publicly stating that they will kill Jewish children world wide is absolutely criminal and unforgivable it does nothing to help the innocent people in Gaza. This will just bring more wrath upon them.

Maybe I am ignorant but Hamas are only in Palestinian territory aren't they? So to effectively carry out this threat they would have to have the support of other Muslim militants groups and so far to my knowledge, we are not seeing other militant groups lending a hand. That is not to say that they are not already assisting covertly by supplying weapons etc.but keeping a low profile and not advertising that fact.

I have tried to remain objective but now I truly feel that neither Israel or Hamas has a monopoly on evil. Blinded by hatred and religion to the point madness. I even think now that they do not even care about their own people as they just see that they must win this conflict.

Both are and have for a long time targeted children, in fact both sides do not care who or what the target is. Blood on the hands of both sides.

Does anyone else see four sides in this conflict

Israeli government, Hamas, Israeli civilians, Gazan civilians.


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reply to post by masonwatcher


Hezbollah?

reply to post by johnny2127


there from Lebanon not gaza , different country.

reply to post by Harlequin


I know that. But there have been intelligence reports of them have done 'operations' within Israel and Palestine before. And of course many tying them to Hamas.

But yes I know the roots of Hezbollah.

reply to post by johnny2127


you honestly think an iran tied shi`ia, really quite professional and well armed outfit will go and `play` with the `suuni` and saudi tied hamas outfit?

the 2 , whilst having a common enemy , arn`t really that friendly - and whilst hezbollah might say they`ve esent liasons or helped them with training - they won`t go into gaza as its not there playground

Being that there is a war, shouldn't Hamas be evacuating civilians from where fighting is taking place? Isn't this basic. Why is the UN allowing Hamas to use its facility? Does this mean that the UN is currently at war with Israel as well? Why has the UN entered a war against a member state on the side of NON-State actors, which would describe Hamas? It seems the UN has decided to commit suicide.

Those children shouldn't have been at school today and everyone knows it, not until a ceasefire. Where is Hamas leadership. Safe I bet, it would be a real tragedy if they got blowed up.

Something doesn't smell right in any of these goings on and the UN has a lot of questions to answer. I think they need to make their motives in Gaza clearer.

What Israel is doing should be expected, it is war. Hamas is wholly responsible for what happens to the Palestinians in Gaza.

reply to post by masonwatcher


Dude you rule would give you a vote if the voting sistem was still around.

reply to post by huckfinn


where will the civilians go? its a sealed ghetto - israel have most surrounded and the egyptian border is shut