posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 11:52 AM
Originally posted by johnny2127
While to you and I it seems obvious, to others it is not. Go read back in this thread. People time and again have argued that Hamas can target
innocent children because of an 'eye for an eye' doctrine. My point was directly back to that. If Israel targets children and innocents thats
wrong. If Hamas or anyone else does, thats wrong. You want me to not use the word 'IF'? Fine. When anyone, Israel or Hamas or Hezbollah or the
USA or anyone else, targets innocents, it is wrong. Period.
Some people are so absurd. I use the the word 'IF' and that means it was a hard-line pro-Israel comment. Apparently saying no one should kill kids
or innocents is a hard-line Israel backer point of view.
Generally hardliners are products of their own propaganda. Edwin Bernays was asked by a instant cake making company how they could reach more women
and increase sales since at that time women seemed content to bake from scratch. He pondered it and told Pillsbury to add to the instructions list,
"Add one EGG" His deeper understanding of human nature told him that the women in question would find this appealing since it is a fertility symbol.
Sales took off.
When approached by cigarette companies who wanted more smokers and women fit the bill Bernays struck again with a massive PR stunt (propaganda) known
as the "Torches of Freedom" doubled the amount of smokers nearly overnight. I can go on and on with examples about how Americans have been converted
into consumer drones but I need not underscore that point.
You stated, "If innocent civilians are targeted by either side ON PURPOSE it is WRONG. But to take it a step further and start killing Jews all over
the world just because they are Jewish? This is the movement that Israel is fighting against, and this is how low they will stoop."
Hardliners like you simply lives to retort other posters, however this time you said, "IF" and doing so allowed you to state information that is
subjective and strictly an opinion. That opinion you expressed COUNTERS YOUR OWN standard retorts that are posted all over this message board. Sure
now you cry foul. This is due to the fact that you are loosing face and credibility in your posts.
If you target an Israeli naturally you are going to hit a Jew. The Jews after all created the nation of Israel. Hebrew is the national language of
Israel and also the language of the Jews. The Star of David is a Jewish religious symbol and also the national symbol of Israel. There is not even a
valid counterargument to offer on this point but you insist that.
It is you who have stated over and over about how "Muslim Fanatics this" and "Muslim Fanatics that" but failed to realize that the Israelis on the
opposing side are Jewish Fanatics who operate prison and death camps in the land that they declared to be the home of God's chosen people.
Essentially the USA was to be a Christian nation according to the Founding Fathers but the Bill of Rights guarantees religious freedom while the
national flag of Israel is proof of a religious nation. English is not the language of Christianity but Hebrew is the language of Israel. Naturally
none of this will make sense to you since you are a closed door.
Johnny, I wish you would steer another course since to me you don't seem like an inherently evil or bad man and you happen to be extremely
intelligent and that quality I happen to respect very much. It is not due to you being pro Jew or that I am Pro Arab (for me I like to think of GOD as
an acronym for Good Orderly Direction) it is that you believe in the governments explanations for the events of the world.
The IF you used meant that you invalidated your claim that Jews and Israelis (completely interchangeable) are only defending themselves.