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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 04:54 PM by jam321
reply to post by Harlequin



Doesn't that make Egypt responsible for some of these deaths because they didn't open up there border to take any in?


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 04:59 PM by Harlequin
reply to post by jam321



oh yes and i`ve said that before - amoungst all the head banging with someone about msnbc

hamas arn`t liked by many people - the UN complained that the election wasn`t fair - didn`t stop hamas shooting all the fatah people though.

and egypt - being concerned over the spread of fundamentalism slammed the border shut


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 05:07 PM by Harlequin
reply to post by johnny2127



you might want to change hat to israelis - as persian jews or any other jews don`t really get killed - also you might want to ask why the Messianic Jews were attacked and had there bibles burnt by rabbis

extremism happens everywhere

news.bbc.co.uk...


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 05:12 PM by huckfinn
reply to post by Harlequin



To avoid my kids from getting hit with artillery we'd pitch a tent in the desert. The problem is that they're to busy following a script and participating in this made for the internet drama to actually care.

Apparently their role is to die like this. Maybe they can hide whereever Hamas' leaderhip is hiding. That seems to be a safe place.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 06:31 PM by wdkirk
"Munich massacre
Main article: Munich massacre
The Games were marred by what has come to be known as the Munich massacre. On September 5 a group of eight Palestinian terrorists belonging to the Black September organization broke into the Olympic Village and took eleven Israeli athletes hostage in their apartment, killing two of the hostages in the apartment after fighting back; the subsequent standoff in the Olympic Village lasted for almost 18 hours.

During a botched German rescue attempt at the military airport of Fürstenfeldbruck, where the captors with their hostages had been transferred by helicopter, ostensibly to board a plane bound for an undetermined Arab country, all the surviving Israeli hostages were killed by a Palestinian who threw a grenade into the helicopter carrying the hostages in one helicopter and another Palestinian who sprayed the second helicopter with machine gun fire.
All but three of the Palestinians were killed as well. Two of those three were supposedly killed later by the Mossad. Jamal Al-Gashey is believed to be the sole survivor, and is still living today in hiding in an unspecified Arab country. The Olympic events were briefly suspended but Avery Brundage, the International Olympic Committee president, decided that "the Games must go on." Competition resumed a day later.

source

Although this was a Black September group and it was when Fatah was in charge, it does go to show you how far Palestinian Extremeist will go.

2 cents of some history

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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 08:20 PM by johnny2127
reply to post by masonwatcher



I am more wondering why you are incapable of seeing any fault whatsoever in anyone that is an enemy of Israel and purposefully kills Jews. Even if you agree with their plight, surely there is some fault any reasonable person could find. No organization is perfect, whether political or militant. Surely you can find something you dont agree with, or some atrocity you couldn't justify.

Yes? No?


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 08:45 PM by masonwatcher
reply to post by johnny2127



Right now Hamas is fighting the Israeli siege. That is their job as Palestinians. Their inherent defects and the mistakes they make is for another time. Any criticism of Hamas should come from the Palestinian people, they voted for them. Your concerns of Hamas is from the position of a zionist. Why should I add more grist for your mill?

Your query for a yes or no accompanied by exasperation is manipulative and has no bearing on the wrongness of the Israeli action.

Sorry dude, we can discuss Hamas during the Palestinian election?

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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 09:18 PM by johnny2127
reply to post by masonwatcher



So criticism of Hamas is only for Palestinians, but you seem to have no issue with anyone including yourself criticizing Israel, Jews, and what you call Zionists. According to your logic, only other Israeli's or "Zionists" should criticize them.

Now personally I don't believe that and think a true criticism from any source is still the truth. Now if you want to be ignorant enough to call me a Zionist because I happen to be born in the US, that is your problem. Zionism has a philosophy behind it, and you cannot blanketly anyone that backs Israel or criticizes Hamas and Hezbollah a Zionist. The equivalent is me calling you a Islamic extremist or terrorist because you defend Hamas and Palestinians. If I did that or someone else did, that would be wrong.

An inability to admit any fault in your own groups or those you support is a weakness my friend.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 08:05 AM by johnny2127
reply to post by Obliterated



I agree with you completely. Anyone targeting children is wrong. I just don't get why so many of the Anti-Israel posters can't even bring themselves to say that it is wrong of Hamas to say this and try to kill Jewish children. Most just justify or minimize the statement. Targeting of innocents is evil no matter how you look at it.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 08:21 AM by VinceP1974
As is usually the case for incidents which cast Israel in a horrible light, the ones responsible are Israel's enemy.

HAMAS game is to use Western values against Israel. It is not an Islamic value to protect life at all cost. To die in the cause of Allah is to go to paradise.. to them it's a win-win situation to be killed if by dying you help the Jihad.

Western value , derived from the Bible, is to protect life and not kill indiscriminately.

HAMAS , Hezbellah and the like deliberately provoke attack on the Arab Civilians because they know the Hate-the-West Media and Leftists and maladjusted Righties will then seize upon the opportunity to declare Israel immoral.

Now then here is video from 29 Oct 2007 of HAMAS firing mortars from the school grounds



This is from an AP Story

www.google.com...
Palestinian residents speaking on condition of anonymity because of fear of retribution said that several militants ran toward the crowd, trying to use it as cover, when the first Israeli mortar shell missed them.

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Gaza militants used to wear black or khaki uniforms, but since the start of the Israeli offensive have been operating in civilian clothing, blending into crowds.


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However, with Israeli forces moving deeper into Hamas' home turf after a week of aerial assaults, the Islamic militants are improving their odds. Hamas has boasted that it prepared deadly surprises for Israeli forces and Tal said that includes booby-traps and tunnels.

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On Monday, three Israeli soldiers were killed by friendly fire when a tank crew took aim at the wrong house. In a separate incident, another soldier was killed by an errant tank shell.


And here is Fathi Ahmad Hammad, of the Palestinian Legislative Council, saying the obvious. They are Islamists. Islam does not value the protection of the life.. only doing whatever it takes to harm their enemy and help the cause of Islam:

"[The enemies of Allah] do not know that the Palestinian people has developed its [methods] of death and death-seeking. For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel [V: They should go shopping instead], and so do all the people living on this land. The elderly excel at this, and so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly, and the mujahideen, in order to challenge the Zionist bombing machine. It is as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: "We desire death like you desire life." "


So there you have it.

So if you know HAMAS strategy is to use your own values against you, the way to defeat that strategy is to not play their game.

When Israel responds to provocation which results in Civilian Deaths, direct your anger towards HAMAS. HAMAS killed them
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