Son of Hamas Founder Gives True Glimpse Into Terror Organization, page 4
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 11:32 AM by centurion1211
Originally posted by GlossomBoodchild
Originally posted by wylekat
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post by MBF





One good thing that he said is that islam will die out in about ten years.


When you're suicide bombing, beheading, and stoning everyone in the religion, who the heck is gonna be left.....


^ Pure Ignorance....The Muslims that believe in suicide bombing and various other violent acts only make up about 1% percent of the Muslim population, if not much less.


For the sake of denying (your ^) ignorance, let's do a little math based on your 1% of all muslims are the violent ones number.

Various sources put the world's muslim population at up to 1.6 billion people.

Now if even only 1% (your figure) of those are inclined to be violent, suicide bombers, etc. then that means we (the rest of the world) are facing an army of as many as 16 million "people" who only want to kill and destroy. And spread throughout the world so no one can really pin them down in one place.

Not sure about you, but 16 million violent religious fanatics sounds like a huge number to me.


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 11:36 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by yellowcard



So if mexico were lobbing missiles across the border into AZ, NM, TX we're to just sit and let it happen?


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 12:00 PM by audas
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by audas
wow, one Hamas supported speaks out and its vindication for the ATS red necks, what about the thousands of Jews speaking out daily throughout the world against Israel, nor the fact that a majority of Israelis support a two state solution and only 19% support this incursion -

But you guys have found ONE person from within that disagrees with HAMAS....kudos.


And "kudos" to you as well for not getting the most important point here.

Did you listen to the interview or read the printed version that was provided?

It's not that it is just one person, it is who that person is - the son of one of hamas' founders. That's what makes this all very newsworthy - whichever MSM outlet runs the interview.


Incorrect - asserting that authorities, or children of authorities, discount the actions of their elders is not justitifaction for your position - morally, legally, socially, ethically Israel is completely in the wrong, this is all that matters, whether the majority of Israelis oppose this invasion(which they do) or the fact that the Israeli intellectual elite, academics, along with their religious leaders ALL form the spine of this opposition is also NOT a justification for opposing the illegal actions of Israel - it is pure logic, facts, history, the law and ethics.

This is all self evident, having to type out the blindingly obvious says more about your perception than it does the reality of the arguments.



reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 12:01 PM by Sunsetspawn
Originally posted by Dusty Pouch
I was impressed not only by the guys obvious courage both moral and physical in making the conversion to Christianity, but also his reasons for doing so.

This reasonable and intelligent young man knows the full heart of darkness that is the real truth of Islam and it's and real agenda of establishing a global Caliphate by force, breeding and deception.

This guy exposes the Religion of War and the worship of the Morning Star, the Moon God Allah and his false prophet Mohammed...

...Listen to this guy and acknowledge the real threat that Islam poses to the rest of the world...

...Credit to this guys bravery, I hope many more will follow his example, not to any other specific religion, just not Islam. It should as a system have stayed in the medievil desert where it really belongs.


I tried to cut this down to a reasonable size. I quoted it because it's important. This is absolutely a common thought among westerners. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to defend any religion because they're all nonsense. It's just that this "blame Islam" crap is a knee-jerk reaction caused by propaganda or maybe just rampant ignorance.

This is a cultural thing and has nothing to do with what book a person considers holy. There's plenty of assyness is all holy books, but it's the culture and the values that're important.

Okay, lemme give two examples. I've known some westernized Muslims, and they drink, party, have pre-marital sex, and do all of the stuff that all holy books would advise against that we all do anyway(so I don't want to hear that they're not real Muslims).

I've also known some easternized Christians. That's right, middle easterners that moved here but have been Christian their whole lives. Imagine that? Anyway, they were two brothers and they were very nice guys, but they were culturally alien to me. Their religion was taken VERY seriously. In fact, we played in a metal band together, but they disliked the Satanic and violent stuff...
the only problem is, the best metal is usually Satanic and violent. (or at least mock Satanic and violent). Hell, the entire subgenres of black and death metal are 99% evil. Anyway, I'm digressing...
They frowned upon much of American culture for various reasons.

Now interestingly, one of the brothers began assimilating. So he would drink with us, chase girls with us, and basically be a naughty boy, and he liked it. The other brother, not so much. So one brother stayed here and the other went back to the middle east for his arranged marriage to start his life.

I forgot the jist of my point because I've been fielding phonecalls, but, the bottom line is that we need to stop pointing to the religion. I'm sure someone could take this and run with it, but it's my day off and I'm going to lock myself in Albion now

Originally posted by strokker
SILENCE!!!!!!

INFIDELS!!!

...I kill you....

ACHMED


Heh, you made me laugh you douche, so you get an el-oh-el star.

I hate myself for thinking Jeff Dunham is kind of funny.


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 12:04 PM by dooper
reply to post by die_another_day


You obviously didn't watch the show. The young man was very troubled, and in his words, every day provided a conflict. This took time, as he would go off with both Bible and Qur'an, and read side by side.

It took a long time for him to come to the conclusion that this teaching of Islam was opposite of the teachings of Judaism and especially Christianity.

He risked everything, including his life.

I don't advise that you watch it yourself. I would hate for you to learn anything for yourself.
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