I love how people will trash and bash Fox for an interview, but those very same people are not trashing and bashing the links from biased Iranian and Al Jazeer sites and even personal blogs. Hypocracy is always funny





[edit on 1/4/2009 by greeneyedleo]

Meh... me thinks its fishy.

From Islam to Christianity just like that?

Originally posted by die_another_day
Meh... me thinks its fishy.

From Islam to Christianity just like that?

Just like that? Did you even read or watch his story?

He speaks out for love, peace and forgiveness amongst all. Is this really so bad that people are now criticizing him and questioning him? Isnt this what we all want???

He is not calling for the death and destruction of anyone. He still loves "his Muslim" people and family, as he calls them. He isn't even calling for Islam to be destroyed.

I just amazed at some of the responses here. I suppose everyone would support him more, if he was still under Hamas' thumb and living the life he was raised to live. *shrug*

Simple question considering all the obfuscation that filling up this thread...

Why do palestinians hate Israel?

What would you do to help your family live a peaceful life on Earth?

The funny thing to me is this...

ISRAEL claims they have been persecuted, and expelled from every country they tried to call home for the last 2000 years.

And now, as the ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE, they are persecuting others around them.

If you side with that, you side with hypocrisy. Plain and simple.

And to comment on the OP thread. If true, why use it as a propaganda piece? Why not also show the many Israeli videos of actual ISRAELI soldiers speaking out against what they are doing?

Messed up world we live in...

AAC

It's not really propaganda though just an insight, Even though it is Fox news doing the peice but i hardly would think Al Jazzera would be lining up to interview an Islamic apostate so i suppose he had to take what he could get.

I don't see why the OP should be railed on for not posting the Israeli solidier videos why doesn't or hasn't someone else done it in the time we've all been sat here reading this thread.

I mean the OP could be biased or could simply not be aware of these other videos...what i'm saying is like we're all here to learn no point jumping on each other when the time could be spent instead of throwing accusations posting these other sources to debate about.

Originally posted by sadchild01
fox news lol,

pure BS

Attempting to "shoot the messenger" instead of listening to the message as in the OP only shows true ignorance and can be considred an obvious deflection attempt.

Ever consider that this interview showed up on Fox solely because MSNBC and CNN were too PC and/or too chickens**t to run it themselves?

As soon as I saw that the OP link was Foxnews, knowing the crowd around here, I knew this thread would devolve into a shoot-the-messenger fest.

Rabid foxnews hate is super entertaining.

Originally posted by audas
wow, one Hamas supported speaks out and its vindication for the ATS red necks, what about the thousands of Jews speaking out daily throughout the world against Israel, nor the fact that a majority of Israelis support a two state solution and only 19% support this incursion -

But you guys have found ONE person from within that disagrees with HAMAS....kudos.

And "kudos" to you as well for not getting the most important point here.

Did you listen to the interview or read the printed version that was provided?

It's not that it is just one person, it is who that person is - the son of one of hamas' founders. That's what makes this all very newsworthy - whichever MSM outlet runs the interview.

Well then, I suppose there is hope for all who are drunk on hate to recieve the eternal waking Divine light and Spirit of Love that alone can regenerate the spirit that was lost at the fall of both men and angels.

Some will rejoice while others will mock. The fool says in his heart there is no God, and he always has plenty of company.


[edit on 4-1-2009 by John Matrix]

Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by die_another_day
Meh... me thinks its fishy.
From Islam to Christianity just like that?

Just like that? Did you even read or watch his story?

He speaks out for love, peace and forgiveness amongst all. Is this really so bad that people are now criticizing him and questioning him? Isnt this what we all want???

He is not calling for the death and destruction of anyone. He still loves "his Muslim" people and family, as he calls them. He isn't even calling for Islam to be destroyed.

I just amazed at some of the responses here. I suppose everyone would support him more, if he was still under Hamas' thumb and living the life he was raised to live. *shrug*

A star for you for having made this most excellent point. Christianity is all about Love, Peace, and Forgiveness and in that there is no fault.

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by audas
wow, one Hamas supported speaks out and its vindication for the ATS red necks, what about the thousands of Jews speaking out daily throughout the world against Israel, nor the fact that a majority of Israelis support a two state solution and only 19% support this incursion -

But you guys have found ONE person from within that disagrees with HAMAS....kudos.

And "kudos" to you as well for not getting the most important point here.

Did you listen to the interview or read the printed version that was provided?

It's not that it is just one person, it is who that person is - the son of one of hamas' founders. That's what makes this all very newsworthy - whichever MSM outlet runs the interview.

Incorrect - asserting that authorities, or children of authorities, discount the actions of their elders is not justitifaction for your position - morally, legally, socially, ethically Israel is completely in the wrong, this is all that matters, whether the majority of Israelis oppose this invasion(which they do) or the fact that the Israeli intellectual elite, academics, along with their religious leaders ALL form the spine of this opposition is also NOT a justification for opposing the illegal actions of Israel - it is pure logic, facts, history, the law and ethics.

This is all self evident, having to type out the blindingly obvious says more about your perception than it does the reality of the arguments.

Originally posted by Dusty Pouch
I was impressed not only by the guys obvious courage both moral and physical in making the conversion to Christianity, but also his reasons for doing so.

This reasonable and intelligent young man knows the full heart of darkness that is the real truth of Islam and it's and real agenda of establishing a global Caliphate by force, breeding and deception.

This guy exposes the Religion of War and the worship of the Morning Star, the Moon God Allah and his false prophet Mohammed...

...Listen to this guy and acknowledge the real threat that Islam poses to the rest of the world...

...Credit to this guys bravery, I hope many more will follow his example, not to any other specific religion, just not Islam. It should as a system have stayed in the medievil desert where it really belongs.

I tried to cut this down to a reasonable size. I quoted it because it's important. This is absolutely a common thought among westerners. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to defend any religion because they're all nonsense. It's just that this "blame Islam" crap is a knee-jerk reaction caused by propaganda or maybe just rampant ignorance.

This is a cultural thing and has nothing to do with what book a person considers holy. There's plenty of assyness is all holy books, but it's the culture and the values that're important.

Okay, lemme give two examples. I've known some westernized Muslims, and they drink, party, have pre-marital sex, and do all of the stuff that all holy books would advise against that we all do anyway(so I don't want to hear that they're not real Muslims).

I've also known some easternized Christians. That's right, middle easterners that moved here but have been Christian their whole lives. Imagine that? Anyway, they were two brothers and they were very nice guys, but they were culturally alien to me. Their religion was taken VERY seriously. In fact, we played in a metal band together, but they disliked the Satanic and violent stuff...
the only problem is, the best metal is usually Satanic and violent. (or at least mock Satanic and violent). Hell, the entire subgenres of black and death metal are 99% evil. Anyway, I'm digressing...
They frowned upon much of American culture for various reasons.

Now interestingly, one of the brothers began assimilating. So he would drink with us, chase girls with us, and basically be a naughty boy, and he liked it. The other brother, not so much. So one brother stayed here and the other went back to the middle east for his arranged marriage to start his life.

I forgot the jist of my point because I've been fielding phonecalls, but, the bottom line is that we need to stop pointing to the religion. I'm sure someone could take this and run with it, but it's my day off and I'm going to lock myself in Albion now

Originally posted by strokker
SILENCE!!!!!!

INFIDELS!!!

...I kill you....

ACHMED

Heh, you made me laugh you douche, so you get an el-oh-el star.

I hate myself for thinking Jeff Dunham is kind of funny.

haha, good story.
One in 10 million palestinians opens his eyes. There is maybe hope for a Palestinian nation someday, if those jackasses from the Hamas get what they deserve.

Originally posted by Swatman
wheres all the fox news haters??? they must be defending gaza right now

i missed this interview but i will definitely catch it next time its on

fox news haters? even a broken clock is right twice a day. like with every news media show, an element of truth can always be found.