Originally posted by VinceP1974
I'm amazed how people just invent evils to assign to Israel. I wish Israel acted the way you claim they do.. this war would have been over a very
long time ago.
Problem is that Israel has committed the majority of the crimes it's being accused of around here and while it's obvious that they can inflict
vastly greater casualties on the Palestinians they too have to maintain the pretense that they are in fact acting in 'self defense'; some don't
blanch at 100 to 1 casualty rates but even they would at the thousand to one rate Israel can probably inflict at will with their air superiority.
HAMAS is the things you say Israel is. I know for a fact the pains Israel takes to avoid civilian causalities.... does HAMAS try to do that?
Hamas ,if it's behind the recent rocket attacks, have not even managed to inflict a half dozen casualties on Israeli citizens so it's clear that
they do not hold the power to cause casualties and possibly not even the power to control ALL elements of their party. This might explain why Hamas is
not listed as a terrorist organization by either Britain or Australia.
How you can argue that the usage of 500 pound bombs and aircraft is a 'pained' effort to avoid casualties i just don't know. Sure it's a way to
avoid Israeli casualties but Palestinian? Tell that to people with IQ scores well below 100.
What I see here is a lot of laziness and cowardice. What is more easy than to go along with the mindless crowd and blame the evil Jews for
agitating the poor innocent docile Arabs.
What is harder than standing up when almost every government on the planet either actively supports or passively condones Israeli outrageous against
the Palestinian people? What is easier than blaming the starving masses created by Israeli aggression for causing it? I mean what kind of people would
the Israeli's have to be and what kind of world would this be if the Israeli's government is doing this because it has the power to do so and it
suits their territorial ambition? Too much truth for you or what? I mean we all know the Nazi's where the victims of the Jews for centuries before
the holocaust so the Jews had it coming, right? Those damn Australian aborigine's and American Indians should have just packed up their stuff and
left both continents, right?
Please stop parroting imperialist propaganda by perpetually heaping the blame for the crimes of the Imperialist on their victims; it really does not
say much about your intellectual prowess.
Are the Jews going to get revenge on you? They going to beat you up ? No. They bother no one.
Maybe when their done stealing the land directly around them they will set their sights on more? What does most imperialist nations do when their
initial victims have been dispatched?
To tell the truth about Muslims is a risk though. Especially in college, which are being taken over by Saudi Arabia-approved
You have GOT to be joking? Do you know who funds the Saudi-Arabian government? Basically the US government, according to you, is funding SA to
propagandize you into believing that Israel is the enemy while the US government tries to convince you that they are not?
No surprise that you are confused and conflicted then....
And.. the Muslims hate America and hate Non-Muslims.. why in the world would someone side with them when they only want to eventaully destroy
your country ..
Muslims do not hate America or non Muslims any more than Christians hate non Christians, Jews and Muslims. People do not hate what they do not know
unless they are propagandized and taught to do so? Have you ever met Muslims that hates you or have you just chosen to believe everything you hear?
It's sad that you have simply exchanged the rather well substantiated Zionist international conspiracy with a international Muslim conspiracy that
can't prevent most Muslim nations from being exposed to neo-liberal 'economics' ( economic terrorism), invasion , occupations and worse? I mean
what's the odds that you could come up with such a nonsensical scenario all on your own?
is your Jew hatred that much that you're willing to side with the monsters who can't wait to do to America what they're doing to
Jew hatred? You must have me confused with someone who cares AT ALL about the plight of Jewish people and as soon as they stop allowing the Israeli
government ( which pretends to speak for Jews everywhere) i could ignore this self styled 'people' , it's a religion , as completely as they are
ignoring the suffering of Palestinians.
As for doing to American what they are doing to Israel who could be afraid of that? I mean how is Israel threatened by suicide bombers, a few gunmen
or uselessly inaccurate rockets? This 'Muslim' threat are just about as dangerous as the 'terrorist' threat and if you want to reduce the meager
threat they pose i would advise that the US and Israel just stop terrorizing and killing them.
And when will you folks listen to what the Muslims say to each other? Maybe then you'd realize we're a target no matter what we do, or who
It's really racist and idiotic to believe that Muslims , even radical one's with guns and bombs, don't have very real motivations for what they say
they will and sometimes do. People who accuse others of being so irrational are more frequently than not the real problem with the world as they must
have experience with committing random violence and irrational acts in general; i mean how else would they suspect that normal everyday rational
thinking people could possibly commit violence without reason?
Being cowardly and thining if we leave Israel on its own will somehow make the Muslims less prone to want to attack this country.. it's not
going to work.
Where does cowardice come into this? Is the Israeli soldiers and pilots who bomb/patrol Gaza cowards for risking their lives? Are the Palestinians who
try to resist cowards for fighting despite being so outmatched? Are the people of the world who are overwhelmingly in favor of reigning in Israeli
violence so? How are any of these groups groups cowardly for generally doing what they think to be 'right'?
Where did you get the irrational idea that Muslims want to attack the west out of shear hatred instead of due to it's support of Israeli and American
aggression against Muslims? If the Islamic threat were so serious why don't we see car bombs and political assassinations in the US? I mean how could
the intelligence organizations that could not stop 9-11 ( and that's not been proven to be masterminded or even carried out by Muslims; funnily)
going to stop such small terrorist cells?
There isn't terrorist attacks against US policymakers because quite frankly there isn't such a coordinated international Muslim threat and most
certainly not the type that is stupid enough to invite additional completely unprovoked violence against Muslim nations.
They're going to come here and they're going to do what they can to bring us down.
Talk about paranoia? Why would they want to attack 'us' or 'you'? What the hell makes you so important in your own eyes? Why don't they attack
Scandinavian countries where people live far more liberally and with higher standards of living? I mean wouldn't it make sense for them to attack the
people who are most representative of the freedom they , according to neo cons and the idiots who believe them, hate? Why not hit those 'free'
countries that can't really respond with invasions or counterattacks first?
Why should these people so desperately want to attack the country with the just about the strongest conventional forces on earth? Why must you insist
that your enemies are not only fanatical but entirely suicidal? Did you watch Rambo or something?
THey have to . It's their religion.
And yet the Christian nations of the world are the one's invading and occupying foreign nations. Why are the fanatical religious bunch so impotent
when it comes to actual warfare? You would think a religion that is all about war and destruction would be better able to inflict at least some kind
of minimum violence on it's enemies? Why are Muslims so pathetically bad at actually fighting back and why are you so desperately afraid of such a
incompetent 'enemy' who don't even threaten you?
The more victories they think they win , no matter what the contest is, the more confident and motivated they are to destroying us.
Your just a sad ball of fear and irrational hatred and it's hard to actually feel angry at you. I'm just glad i don't have to seriously attempt to
make sense of the heap of conflicts and misinformation you are apparently trying to set up as a workable view of the world.
Good luck waiting for the Muslim terrorist at your door. While your waiting i suggest a generous medical aid fund as these types of irrational fears
tends to destroy the digestive and nervous systems far sooner than terrorist ever can.