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Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by DantesLost
Thanks to everyone else for their posts. I do read them all even if I don't reply to everything.
anyone who dares criticize Israel is at once denounced as an anti-Semite.
But the Zionists who run Israel are not Semites. The Ashkenazi Jews that rule Israel have no legal, moral, historical or religious ties to Israel. Their origins are in the Kingdom of Khazar, they converted to Judaism in the 8th Century. The Palestinians are Semites; the Ashkenazi Jews are not Semites. So by attacking the Ghetto at Gaza, the Zionists have become the biggest Anti-Semites of all times
Let me give you some facts no American media will provide you with. The Gaza Ghetto is 139 square miles, about the size of Philadelphia or Seattle. Within the Ghetto 1.5 million people live in abject poverty with an unemployment rate of 65%. It’s one of the most densely populated areas on earth. Israel maintains a total and complete blockade on the Ghetto (In comparison, the Warsaw Ghetto contained only 500,000 people)
The blockade is illegal but seeing as how Israel has ignored hundreds of UN Resolutions regarding their illegal treatment of Palestinians, it’s just one more war crime on their part.
Originally posted by EricD
Originally posted by Ownification
Even the Muslims who you guys portay as terrorist have more understanding, not even them call it ancestral claim over the land, they call it injustice. They say We lived amogst Jews and Jews lived amongst us. Why did they force thousands of Jewish migrants on one land as if the world doesn't have enough space. Injustice is the only word, ancestral claim is for uneducated.
Who are 'you guys'?
This is getting way off topic. I would humbly suggest that:
a) If you want to explore the possible historical injustices perpetrated against Muslims, create a thread for it.
b) Use clarity in your accusations so that it is clear who 'you guys' are. Without that clarity the reader is forced to assume that you are setting up a false us vs. them dichotomy.
Instead of getting into the 'ancestral claim' argument which is an excellent discussion in and of itself, I'm going to tie my answer directly into the topic. And that is, if ancestral claim should not be an issue (opinions will differ regarding the importance and fairness so I'll respect the right of everyone to have their own view of this), why the need to invent false accusations regarding a segment of the Jewish population's ancestry?
If we're to stay on topic, then the question is not 'do or should the Jews have ancestral claim to the land.' Instead, if critics claim ancestral rights is not even an issue, why are these critics trying to disprove their ancestral claim by attacking their ancestry if its such a non issue? What they should be doing is disputing the claim to ancestral right fairly, logically, and historically- not fabricating arguments which is what they are doing in this case.
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by Desolate Cancer
And to answer your question, yes, I am a Christian Zionist in the sense of solidarity with the Jewish people and the state of Israel but there are several things I disagree with when it comes to the movement.
In a general, summarized sense, I agree with most of the theological aspects (like Israel fulfills prophecy and Israel's right to exist) but disagree with some of the political aspects (like those who attempt to manipulate events or those who use the Jewish people just to benefit their side of the prophetic scenario).
Originally posted by rightwingnut
This diagreement is what makes the difference between you and jews. Not to animostically but did you stop by merriam-webster before calling yourself a zionist?