AshleyD
The first problem is,which DNA is correct?
The different Jewish groups have different views,some accept only the male,some only the female,others accept both.
The male DNA line leads to the Middle East,whereas the female line leads to Europe.
DNA research on Ashkenazi origins may shed some light on the mechanism of Jewish migration from the Southern Mediterranean to the Northern
European regions. One study {{ref|Hammer}} indicates that the Y chromosome of both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are of Middle Eastern origin, similar
to Lebanese and Syrian DNA types. Since the Y chromosome is only passed from father to son, it may be used to trace Jewish male origins. Another study
of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA {{ref|Goldstein}} (mtDNA can only be passed from mother to child) allows the tracking of maternal origins. According to
this study the mtDNA generally matched that of local European populations and not Middle Eastern populations. These studies would indicate that male
Jewish traders moved from Middle Eastern and Southern European communities into Northern European communities and intermarried local females in those
regions./
www.spiritus-temporis.com...
Remember, at the time Revelation was penned, the term 'Christian' was not in popular use, although Acts records it's first use in 1st century A.D.
At that time, 'Christians' were still widely considered and called Jews, even the Gentile converts to 'Christianity.' This was prior to the
Christian/Jew rift.
I believe it was.Many Greek and Roman authors used this word.Even Tacitus says it was a well known term.
Annals of Tacitus.Book 15.
...to get rid of the report,Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations,called
Christians by the populace...
So I'd say Icarus Rising brings up a very good point.
As I have already explained, the point of bringing up the religious aspect was due to the fact that even if scientific evidence was not in favor of my
case, Jewish converts are still considered Jews according to the Jewish law.
Which Jewish Law?
The different Jewish sects each have their own laws.For example,Orthodox Judaism recognizes only those conversions in which a convert accepts and
undertakes to observe halacha as interpreted by their own teachings.The controversy around this subject continues to this day.
lightchild
But I was wondering if it's the interest of the Jewish people to define themselves as a race and not just a religion.
1. It's easier to label someone as a racist than as a "religionist"
2. Races tend to have their own land and generally religions don't
Thats a good way of looking at it.Controversial too.So no doubt most people will say its an incorrect theory.
Bigwhammy
For instance some "Palestinians" claim an Abrahamic heritage through Ishmael.
Actually they claim descent from Joktan,one of the sons of Eber.(the one who didn't help build the Tower of Babel so his language wasn't
confused.This language became known as Hebrew)
It is more PC to say "Arab" than Muslim.
Arabian is a race,Islam is a religion.
[edit on 4-1-2009 by DantesLost]
