I've just seen a documentary on cattle mutilation...was it 'Myth busters' or 'Is it real?' I'm not sure. But it convincingly concluded and even did an experiment to show that cattle mutilation was done by maggots and/or wild predators. I don't see how this case of human mutilation is any different.

Damnit!!! I am at work, and therefore I cannot access the article, nor view the footage...could someone helpa brother out?...

I take it from the responses that it is pretty rough, but I have not filtered too many actual details. Thanks again

Max

This case was studied here on ATS about a year ago.

After dozens of pages back and forth, the most likely candidate was vultures, or some other scavenver bird.

The man could have starved to death given his poor physical shape.

Vultures will begin pecking and tearing at the softest, decaying flsh, just to get an entry point. then the can stick their 12-18 inch long necks into these holes and eat soft organs ect.

Good entry points are, the eyes, lips/mouth, private parts ect.

I've seen a couple dozens pirahna (the vultures of the water), basically eat a huge bird from the inside out, it's pretty sick.

But no, this is most like the work of animals, and possibly the work of Humans (sad but a possibility.) As far as E.T.'s, nope, just not buying it, way too messy with thier sort of tech. If aliens are visiting and ubducting. Plus they usually don't kill humans.

Because most all ,if not all mutilations are done buy scavengers, and/or wild dogs, hyenas. Something a fit human could fend off from a home, or with a group of people.

Cows on the otherhand cannot,and die outside, and aren't discovered for days later.

And we were made in their image...............

Yea , I have never seen a human disregard an animals suffering for medical experimentation. Or skin an animal alive because "it comes of easier when warm".

I am no animal activist , but get real here people. Some humans are as sick as your worst nightmare . If it was the aliens , all it shows is we had good teachers and we learnt well.

P.S. Read the PM report before , and I could have done all that work in my mortuary. The hard part is getting it all back in.

Totally horrifying case.
I`m a cop, and has been so for a long time, what one should do, is first to clear this mans past to the full, and log is doings in the last hours / days alive if possible.
Second you must get a clear picture ex of who he was.
Conduct a thorough homicide investigation with the means available.

Has a proper crime scene investigation been done?

Like :

initiating a crime scene inquiry
crime scene issues
crime scene
types of useful evidence
crime scene search
evidence maintenance
evidence submission
sketching the crime scene
photographing the scene
recording with video

Has interviews been done properly?

Like:

investigations of reliability issues of witnesses
hypnosis issues
witness types classifications of them
has interviewing guidelines been followed?
has all interview documentation been done?

Did they do a proper injury investigation?

Like:

a full medic legal examination
autopsy
decedent Identification
taken care of unidentified remains in a proper way?
lay down the time of death estimations
collected evidence from wounds
checked firearm blunt force and other weapons or tools?
sharp force investigation?
possible suicide investigation
psychological autopsy

I can go on forever.....being a cop is not always easy you see :-)

I beg to differ on the idea that it sould only have been aliens that did this. In my opinion humans would be capable of these mutillations. I saw some blood in those pictures. If someone tortured him somewhere (which is consistent with the story) all the blood was simply left at the scene and he was moved.

I agree with others, I don't know why somone would think of aliens. There are some sick humans out there, people who do some seriously strange things. If there was some sort of evidence of an alien, then it would be interesting and very scary. They said this guy died from a heart attack from the extreme pain!?

It's also possible that "some" of these mutilated animals where the humans first kills then he/she moved on to a human?


[edit on 29-12-2008 by _Phoenix_]

Originally posted by Freelancer
I doubt very much this is the work of 'aliens', more like some corporate pharmaceutical funded organisation using military connections to hide under with.

i cant argue with you freelancer, and i like your line of thought

if it was humans that did this, its definatly related to people with lots of power

good finger pointing, i think this should be investigated

im not sure where to start tho, but it sounds like a good idea

realistically, we need to look at human culprits first your right
its certainly not animal wounds, it looks pretty high tech
so its for sure humans (or aliens lol)

but which one, and whats the motive

i would really like to know the motive behind this

Originally posted by Dewm0nster
I like how they used this case as "tentative evidence" that it was, in fact, none other than evil aliens.
If this isn't proof, what is?!
Site was extremely biased, imo.
But good post, weird murder.

Doesn't have to be government, doesn't have to be extraterrestrial.
Some people just enjoy watching others suffer.
Man knows no wrath like that of his own.

well think about it for a minute

what kind of "evidence" can a Alien leave on earth, without giving up secrets on their tech?

wouldnt a mutilated cow or human be the only possible evidence you could leave?

without leaving behind any sophisticated gadgets or materials

old news. been discussed on ats before.

gang warfare probably.

would I get lots of ats points if i reposted old articles?

and why did I get -800 ats pts?

[edit on 29-12-2008 by postmeme]

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
I agree with others, I don't know why somone would think of aliens. There are some sick humans out there, people who do some seriously strange things. If there was some sort of evidence of an alien, then it would be interesting and very scary. They said this guy died from a heart attack from the extreme pain!?

It's also possible that "some" of these mutilated animals where the humans first kills then he/she moved on to a human?


[edit on 29-12-2008 by _Phoenix_]

so your saying this person has murdered literally thousands of farm animals and even a few humans (as far back as the 1950's and as recent as the 1990's) was doing all this alone?

its remotely possible, imo, not impossible, just remote
i wouldnt say your wrong, because you might be right, but i would say its a safe bet thats unlikely

it would have to be a organized group of people doing it, over such a wide span of time on such a wide basis all over earth

a military, a pharma corp, a isolated cult, or a group of sick doctors acting on their own, its hard to say without seeing any real evidence firsthand

all seem reasonable possibilities, i wouldnt discount any of them, we are left to only speculate on what limited evidence we have

could it all be faked? sure, but is it? it looks to be kinda real, so idk

thats why i wont discount the alien theory either, because its totally possible

the only reason i liked the alien theory in this case was because it exhibited a flavor of randomness, that i usually attribute to a alien "fingerprint"

i wont stick to any particular theory unless certain things stick out

you know, all joking aside, this could have been Nazi's from the south pole.
this is ATS afterall

Originally posted by Nola213
Vultures will begin pecking and tearing at the softest, decaying flsh, just to get an entry point. then the can stick their 12-18 inch long necks into these holes and eat soft organs ect.

Good entry points are, the eyes, lips/mouth, private parts ect.

As far as E.T.'s, nope, just not buying it, way too messy with thier sort of tech. If aliens are visiting and ubducting. Plus they usually don't kill humans.

alrite im putting my money on vultures then
it makes tons of sense thanks cant believe i didnt think of that myself lol

then agian ive never watched vultures feed, but what you say seems to fit all my expectations
vultures indeed seems like the most likely culprit and the motive is easily established (food lol)

and i agree , it does look sloppy for an alien, and pointless (and a huge waste of a good specimen!)

[edit on 29-12-2008 by muzzleflash]