Palestinian rocket misfires, kills 2 girls in Gaza, page 9
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reply posted on 24-12-2008 @ 09:52 PM by D.E.M.
I would suggest that the people taking the side of Israel here think back 60 odd years to the Nazi regime in Germany, and take a close look at such things as The Warsaw Ghetto.

The Jews suffered tremendously under the Nazi's, no one is contesting that fact. Quite frankly, however, I have completely run out of sympathy for a country and race that has decided to adopt the same techniques as their own oppressors used against them.

Since its inception in 1948, Israel has done nothing but commit a slow and insidious genocide against the natives of Palestine who's land they invaded. If it was any other race on the planet, the first world would not stand for this, but since it is the poor suffering jews, we turn a blind eye and are called Anti-semetic if we point out exactly what is going on:

Genocide.

A Holocaust.

The Palestinians are now EATING GRASS because Israel has sealed the borders around Gaza and refuse to let any aid in or out. Not unlike the Nazi sealing of the Warsaw ghetto in 1943 and subsequent raid and purging.

Call me anti-semetic or racist if you will, but the Jews forfeited their claim to that land when they left it almost 2000 years ago. What they are committing there today is nothing less than what was attempted against them 60 years ago.

Anyone who buys into the hypocrisy of the situation should have their account banned here, as that is essentially the worst possible failure to deny ignorance in the 21st century.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 12:50 AM by dooper
reply to post by grimreaper797



That's BS. Palestinians, including Gazans are given hundreds of millions of dollars per year. Let' see. They certainly aren't buying food, they aren't fixing their water system, they don't fix their sewage system, they don't spend any money on roads or other infrastructure, and they sure as hell don't spend anything on schools.

Let's see. Hundreds of millions in income, but nothing for the people who live there. Yet they have all these munitions.

You think they just pulled all these rockets, mortar rounds, and ammunition out of their butts?

Instead of spouting anti-Jewish crap, how about addressing the topics?

I know damned good and well that you spend your money on what's important to you. I do as well.

So do the dumbass Palestinians. Arms.

And yet they don't have the guts to use them past lobbing a few rounds here and there. It's like amateur hour in these "Palestinian" areas. It's always been like amateur hour for these people.

They rather war and spread misery than feed their own people.

Even their brother Arabs in Egypt can't stand them.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 12:54 AM by dooper
reply to post by Jinni


Well Jinni, the Palestinians and their masked Jihadists have been doing the identical same thing against Israelis.

So what is your point?

That both sides are fighting?

Why don't they buy some frigging food, and fewer rockets?

Which bring retaliation.

And your loose use of genocide and mass murder do nothing to enhance your credibility when you speak.

Any day the Israelis wish to engage in genocide, it will be a done deal. That' how you know that it isn't genocide.

Mass murder? Like blowing up retards in a market place?

Is that the mass murder kind of thing you're referring to?



reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 12:57 AM by Jinni
The Israeli Genocide in Palestine, March 29 - April 18, 2002

www.revisionisthistory.org...

and then Israelis Forbid War Crimes Investigation in Jenin:

www.revisionisthistory.org...

one of many events of mindless, massacre and terrorism.

Israel have STOLEN Palestinian land and are actively killing, murdering, terrorising and starving defenceless Palestinians. They especially like the taste of women and children.

DO Palestinians have a RIGHT to defend themselves?

Let's see the BIG picture and put the violence into perspective.

[edit on 25-12-2008 by Jinni]


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 12:58 AM by jam321
reply to post by Jinni



Israel is committing mass murder and genocide on Palestinians.


How many dead do you consider to add up to mass murder or genocide?


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 01:00 AM by Jinni
Originally posted by jam321
reply to
post by Jinni



Israel is committing mass murder and genocide on Palestinians.


How many dead do you consider to add up to mass murder or genocide?


Well, according to Israel and indefinite number of murdered Palestinians would never make up for murder and genocide. Why? because they are considered sub-human.

Here's an interesting article:

"How to Be an Israeli Journalist: Never Write "Murder" or "Palestine" by Yonatan Mendel

www.palestine-pmc.com...

Disgusting.


[edit on 25-12-2008 by Jinni]


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 01:02 AM by jam321
reply to post by Jinni



I want to know what you consider the number to be since you are saying they are committing mass murder.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 01:13 AM by grimreaper797
Originally posted by dooper
That's BS. Palestinians, including Gazans are given hundreds of millions of dollars per year. Let' see. They certainly aren't buying food, they aren't fixing their water system, they don't fix their sewage system, they don't spend any money on roads or other infrastructure, and they sure as hell don't spend anything on schools.


Going to need a source that they are given hundred of million dollars, IN CASH. Hundreds of millions of dollars in AID, yes. But cash? Going to need a source for that.


Let's see. Hundreds of millions in income, but nothing for the people who live there. Yet they have all these munitions.

You think they just pulled all these rockets, mortar rounds, and ammunition out of their butts?


Thanks for proving you didn't bother to even read my post. If you did, you get a failure in comprehension.

As I said, it is more than likely, somebody is fighting a proxy war and supplying them with arms. If they were spending hundred of millions on bombs and arms, they would be attacking alot harder then they are now.
Instead of spouting anti-Jewish crap, how about addressing the topics?



And yet they don't have the guts to use them past lobbing a few rounds here and there. It's like amateur hour in these "Palestinian" areas. It's always been like amateur hour for these people.


See, you are so blind with hate for the palestinians, that you dont even bother with logic. They have all this supposive money...they spend it all on these weapons...then they don't use them? You know how stupid this all sounds right?

I would think if they were willing to starve to buy all these weapons, they would use them. What you are saying is they starve just to buy these weapons, then dont have the guts to use them.

Your claim is so far beyond ridiculous that if it were a star, Hubble wouldn't be able to spot it.


They rather war and spread misery than feed their own people.

Even their brother Arabs in Egypt can't stand them.


And you would rather believe that then look for the truth in the matter. Its not even worth getting into.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 01:22 AM by jam321
Article Six: Peculiarity and Independence
The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinct Palestinian Movement which owes its loyalty to Allah, derives from Islam its way of life and strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine. Only under the shadow of Islam could the members of all regions coexist in safety and security for their lives, properties and rights. In the absence of Islam, conflict arises, oppression reigns, corruption is rampant and struggles and wars prevail. Allah had inspired the Muslim poet, Muhammad Iqbal, when he said:
When the Faith wanes, there is no security
There is no this-worldliness for those who have no faith
Those who wish to live their life without religion
Have made annihilation the equivalent of life.


So in order to coexist in the region Israel will have to convert to Islam according to the Hamas Charter.


Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences
[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad:


This part shows that Hamas is not interested in any kind of a peace initiative.


www.palestinecenter.org...

Point blank, both of them have bloodied their hands against each other for quite a while. Both of them, Hamas and Israel, are liable for the current crisis. But notice that the West Bank under PLO isn't having any where near the problems Gaza is facing. This shows that Israel is not going after all Palestinians. Israel will be criticize no matter which option they take. And while their busy implementing different options, Hamas will still be trying to attack them in various ways. Hamas is just as much of the problem as Israel is. Once Israel pulled out of Gaza, why didn't Hamas implement policies to help the area prosper instead of building an arsenal to go after Israel?


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 01:24 AM by Jinni
Here are numerous accounts of Israeli massacres in Palestine:

Read and weep:

www.soundofegypt.com...


Here's more photos of dead kids: Israel -loves- to kill children it seems:
www.bubbleshare.com...

Do Palestinians have the RIGHT to defend themselves?

[edit on 25-12-2008 by Jinni]

[edit on 25-12-2008 by Jinni]


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 01:28 AM by jam321
reply to post by Jinni



If the Palestinians feel they have to defend themselves, so be it. Lobbying missiles into Israel is not defending itself, especially when Israel didn't fire a shot to warrant those missiles. Read the Hamas Charter and you will get a view with what type of people you are dealing with. Don't you find it surprising that other Arab nations choose not to help them. And if they do it is in the form of weapons or bad mouthing Israel. There are very few Arabs that are brave enough to speak up about what is truly happening. Because if they did thn the truth would be a lot clearer.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 01:31 AM by Jinni
Weekly Report: On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory

www.palestine-pmc.com...

Jam packed as a 'weekly' report I must say!

This is by Palestinian Centre for Human Rights because everyone else is already in Israelios pocket...

Israel STOLE their land and are now killing them all off out of PURE vile HATRED fed to them by the Israeli government.

What if I come and steal your home, rape, kill and butcher your family. You will "shut up and put up" right? You will "SHUT UP and PUT UP" right?

Do Palestinians have the RIGHT to DEFEND themselves against GENOCIDE and extinction?

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