reply to post by HunkaHunka
Not to compare us to Apes
but even the Bonobo, living in the manner you prescribe, wars, kills and eats others of its species when they encroach
on their territory.
We are right now living in our wild state. We are no less wild than the ants in their structures and colonies or the bees who build their intricate
cities in wax. The way we live now is our nature.
Yes, the Congo is a product of a mixture of the modern world with people not yet ready to enter it. I meant only that the rule of, he who is the most
powerful rules is unavoidable unless controlled by a set of laws enforced by those with enough power to do so.
Your premise only takes into account you to the exclusion of everyone else. That is not the norm for we members of the Ape family. We are social
animals who do best when we join together to each others benefit. Even the Native Americans, living much as you describe had a social order and relied
on tribes to insure their continued survival. They also had wars and killed others to insure thier survival.
There will always be loners, hermits if you will, who prefer solitude and isolation, but the vast majority of us must work together not only for
survival, but to improve our quality of life.
I have spent long periods living in the so called wild. I have acquired all the skills necessary to survive and actually tested them on extended
survival trips when I was young. Even though it was fun for a bit and very entertaining, at the end of the day, I'd rather live the extra few
decades. When I rise in the morning I'd rather step into a hot shower rather than a cold lake to clean myself.
You are not really a prisoner by the way. There are many up here and in other parts of the world living like you want. When they need medical help or
they can no longer survive the weather, they always come back. They never completely break that umbilical cord that connects them to the tribe.
In the real world there are 6.7 billion people who have as much right to happy healthy lives as any individual. To say that we could all revert to a
so called wild state is ludicrous under current circumstances. That is only possible for the occasional sociopath who chooses to do so.
The elimination of government and laws at this juncture would lead to unimaginable suffering and bloodshed. Reality is, those truly willing to give it
all up and go wild do so. They are not on the Internet as they would not own a computer or know how to use it if they found one. Theory is one thing,
practice is another all together.
Were the Neanderthals happy and content? Perhaps so, but they still formed groups out of necessity and I have no doubt they had leaders in those
groups.
In reality the best form of government would be a righteous Dictator. Not in the Biblical sense, but the moral sense. Often the things we consider as
holding us back are in fact what is keeping us from self-destructing. Living in the wild is only satisfying until you break a leg, catch a disease or
run head on into mother nature who just won't provide enough food when needed.
One thing I've witnessed living where I do is that most people who say they want to live in the wild don't. Otherwise they would simply put on their
backpack and walk into the woods. On the odd occasion they do, they carry with them products that can only come from the fruits of civilized society.
The backpack made in Taiwan, the sleeping bag from a factory full of women trying to feed their children and things like canned goods, the product of
a modern farm in partnership with a cannery.
Forgive my rambling as I'm trying to write this and work at the same time.
