Originally posted by Man_Versus_AntiMan
It is the way the system works, and it is a system that has evolved over millenia with us, it is the way we work. It is reflective of us as a
Ok, realist, if this is the way the system works, (and I agree that it IS the way the "system" works) how does that translate into "thats the way
If everyone was this way, there would be no one to exploit. This "system" is now, and has been for millenia, a system of farming some more
cooperative humans for the benefit of the few much less cooperative humans. Thats why there is a "them" vs "us" mentality here. We the farmed
know we are being farmed by those who look at us as mere domesticated animals to work or slaughter as they see fit.
If you are one of the "back room dealers" you may very well have convinced yourself that that is how ALL humans operate. It might make you feel
better about yourself to do so. But, the numbers if you look at them, will show you that it simply isnt true. The vast majority of us are NOT
incredibly greedy, willing to do anything at any cost simply to get richer. Thats why so many of us are "losers." (Common people rather than big
players.) We do have self interest. No question. And we will reach for more stuff. But if we see the blood that extra stuff costs, the majority of
us stop reaching for it. When we see the human suffering that having more engenders, the majority choose not to have more. As long as we have
enough. Great lengths are gone to to conceal from consumers the real "cost" of their consumerism. Why? Because unlike the elite, when we clearly
see the suffering of others, it makes us disinclined to pursue those items.
It isnt about intelligence. Many of us know exactly what it takes to get ahead in this system, and we simply dont want to do it. We would rather
live more simply, and have "enough" and not rape and pillage. most people simply are not driven that way. We arent lazy. Many of us work harder,
longer hours, more years, than any of those riding the wave of greed. We arent stupid. Many of us understand exactly what it takes, and how to do
it. We just think the price is too high. We may fight among ourselves over issues, but most of us do NOT think that other humans are expendable toy
Originally posted by Man_Versus_AntiMan
The thing that really puzzles me about some of the views here and on this site are that, a) any of you are suprised and angered that people exploit
situations to make money, b) any of you are suprised and angered that companies have long term strategies and most of all c) you take all of this to
be a sign of evil!
Maybe that will explain it to you a little more clearly. To a more cooperative sort of people, those who are willing to get by with less to make sure
their neighbors also get by, all of the above ARE undesirable qualities. Most of us are not surprised by the greed of the elite, but we can be
surprised (and angered) at how far the elite are willing to go to acquire MORE. We are surprised because although all humans are self interested,
there is a real human divide.
One, the smaller set, feels that their self interest is theirs and theirs alone. They feel above and separate from other humans. They look at us as
the stupid sheeple to be fleeced or slaughtered if their own interests call for it.
The second, the larger set, recognizes to varying degree that our self interest is also the interests of others. We know that we need each other to
survive, and we are willing to sacrifice our comforts and our own self interests, even our very lives at times, for the greater good.
It is this second group of people to whom you are speaking. We dont need Icke to tell us what we are up against, our "class" of people has always
known that there is another kind of human out there. The names may change, they may be elaborated on as physically "not human" (whether or not
that is the truth) but they ARE different from us. And we know it.