Get Ready Folks.

Do we really believe that the US government will go this far to depopulate the working forces? We are already suffering from lack of workers due to deportation of undocumented workers. Likewise, we disintegrated Nazi regime and don't tell me we are adapting its atrocities.

Hey thrashee ...

I didnt believe in any conspiricy whatsover (other than the devil wants us all dead or dieing and in despair daily and not wanting us to trust in the Lord ) UNTIL I saw it unfold right before my eyes ...Their ACTIONS on 911 and since 911 was what opened my eyes ..
And even since then I spend days on end trying to convince myself that it just cannot be true ...but for some reason that nagging feeling inside me will not just blow it off as BS >>..their actions (Not just with Katrina ) but every single thing that has happened since 911 is the ONLY REASON why I believe they do not want whats best for us ...

Again their words mean nothing to me (they prove to me to be liars every time they open their mouths ) ..it is the actions of those in power that speaks louder than words that they cannot be trusted >>

Now you can just go ahead and believe that all is well ...but I for one will not be fooled anymore by them ......
Maybe you feel good believing them ..but I feel good about not believing them .

If someone proves to me they cannot be trusted ..then I do not put my trust in anything they do or say ..
Its real simple ..they have proven to me that they cannot be trusted ..

They learned from the past to not do it by physical force, but by brainwashing Oh yeee shall fall to the deception of thy master if thy believeth the darkness which follows. I'll see you when i do

i would like to add something to this thread, considering i am reading alot of the usual, "go away, nothiong to see here" opinions.
the odd fact that these cars are by a FEMA site, would be and should be enough to garner suspicions.
ask the Jews, ( as mentioned earlier).
especially the comments that they were told "it was for their own protection.
i have seen simular facilities and transports before, and have seen them implemented.
without going into detail, i have seen school busses used to transport anti war activists, and suspected communists, ( actually ordinary students) from mass round ups, and disposed of in camps, en masse.
when the facilities becames overwhelmed, i saw the busses disposed full of those students, in lakes and off shore.

i will not tell you where this happened.

neighboring countries who were witness to this, did nothing.
there were complaints of bodies littering vacation beachfront homes..
there were also complaints of certain factory water inlets clogged.
there was lots of money to be made in cleaning them up.
this went on for years.
contractors did a lucrative business furnishing transport, and guards, and other equipment.

thousnds dissappeared, and there is yet to be an accounting, or even acknowlegement.

it is a very easy thing to start, especially as mentioned before, the excuse is the rounding up of the indigent, criminals, sexual perverts, or any undesired racial social group.

any one who may witness, and report to the wrong people, joins the list.

if you find your self caught up in this, you are fugged.
there is no way out.

leaders and trouble makers are sorted out right away, and either nullified, or killed. it is usually done in front of the group to shock them into submission., it works well.

this is an important thread, and find.
realise that posting this is dangerous, if anything should really start.

also realise that neighbors, and family will probably not only be of no help, but inna survival instinct, or just out of plain mean advantage, will not help you, and may even cooperate.

if anyone here, should ever be unfortunate to find yourself in any of these situations, also realise, the more time you spend in lockup, or transport, the closer you are to being killed.
the only way out is to act as soon and as violently as you can.
you will have to kill to get out.

study the WWII camp histories.

civilian lock up, will not be like the movie 'great escape"..

and thanks again to those who stay awake and alert.
if you are wrong, no one gets killed, if you are right, someone may live.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by Simplynoone
I live next to an automobile rail distribution center ...these types of rail cars are used to house and distribute cars and they are chained in place to hold 2 rows (Stacked) which may be what your thinking is for chaining prisoners ........not saying that they could not be used for something else ..but just wanted you to know that there are many many of these parked along the routes of these auto plants and distribution centers.
Do you have any in your area ?

No friend, they are parked right outside the Beech Grove FEMA camp.

For background look at the YouTube video. These are lined up directly outside it.

I think the nearest auto factory is in Kokomo Indiana, about 1 hr north of Indy.

I see the public and joe blow (like you) don't understand the engine that is the railroad. As a railfan and a holder of a certificate in Railroad Operations, let me give you some down to earth explinations for this event that you happen to see next to a FEMA camp.

The Railroads have limited space availabe for trains. Unlike cars, trains can't get off the tracks to go around a parked trains. They have to wait for the trains which have the go ahead to go down the tracks. This picture was taken at a place where there are two Tracks. Well this train looks like there was no room in a Rail yard and are not need for several weeks. Also, Indiana has many Car Factories. Thus you said that the nearest car factory is an hour a way, well can you put two and two together.
It is not unusual for Railroad to use every available track for storage. Railraods are not in Quanity, but Quality of Rail. They don't like to expand Existing Rail infrastructure, and will use every piece of real estate they have to the best of there ability. If this piece of Track is doesn't have that many daily trains on it, Like one or two, the siding, (which these Autocarriers are sitting on, a siding) then it is more plauseable that these are simply rail vehicles that don't have a customer yet, or they do, and there are simply waiting for that customer to have room to put these railcars on the customer's property.

Now if you want more info, I recommend that you go to a model Railroad show, and you'll find tons of people who know alot more than you do.

Originally posted by Simplynoone
Now you can just go ahead and believe that all is well ...but I for one will not be fooled anymore by them ......
Maybe you feel good believing them ..but I feel good about not believing them .

This has nothing to do with belief. Hey, you don't trust the government? That's fine. I don't particularly either. But not trusting the government and believing there is some global conspiracy to march people off to death camps--by the way, for no apparent reason, as no one here has bothered explaining WHY they would do this yet--are two different things entirely.

This is what I mean. Not trusting the government isn't, or shouldn't, be license to draw whatever conclusions you'd like out of any story or picture. It's not an excuse to toss reason and logic aside.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by thrashee

 

Is it me or does a certain poster seem like a paid dis-info agent?

No matter who posts, no matter what they say this poster disagrees, and tries to use appeal to ridicule arguments.

This poster takes exception to ANYTHING posted on the subject.

For good reason too....the majority of this thread is shrill hysteria. Empty auto transport cars sitting on an un-used spur. Really? Who would have thought that was possible with automobile sales going through the roof? *sarcasm off*

What next? Unsold new housing is actually secret gas chambers?

reply to post by interestedalways


yes, too many converging points now. connect the dots about

to be connected for us.

let's see: banks and markets panic / economy "grinds to a halt" /

no money= no gas, no food, no work / civil riots / national guard

activated nation-wide / pat act 1 & 2 and fema emergency acts

enable herding of prisoners.....etc, etc, etc.

you can't rip out the implated RF tag...unless you are a capable doctor.

Good luck to all of us.


[edit on 9/29/2008 by drphilxr]

Originally posted by drphilxr
yes, too many converging points now. connect the dots about

to be connected for us.

Your connections make for great paranoia. But the one thing you're not addressing is: why?

Why do all this? What's the goal? The grand motive?

Think about it. If there really is some grand NWO, what's the point of it? If these people are already in charge, they obviously have more than enough power and money.

Can some conspiracy theorist please explain this?

When it starts noone will be able to came closer and make some pictures of what is going on in FEMA CAMPS, why don't you put/install (before it starts) a camera that takes pictures of it?

All you need is high tree and remote cammera.

And no one will deny the truth !

Originally posted by jtma508
The last time a government attempted a mass round-up of the population was in the 30's. It was allowed to happen largely because mass, realtime communication wasn't possible. Nowadays there is no way the gov't could pull this off. It would be all over the net within minutes. Now, if the gov't pulls down the net and communications are disrupted be sure the SHTF is upon us.

You are assuming an unbreakable line of communication. I say to you that communications are FAR more fragile than you suggest. Heck, cell phones and the Internet are often disrupted, even now.

What if... What if the comm towers were taken out, or lines are cut (seems they did that to Iran...), or major telecom companies are involved and cut communication, or...

I'm just saying, you may THINK we are all well connected, but *I* wouldn't bank on it.

to be fair they could probably just turn off all communications without having to resort to sabotage.

reply to post by sirbikesalot06


Expansion by the end of the decade.

As for the railroads running out of room to run trains. With the available space that railroads have, they cooasionally have to park trains wherever they can put them. Not only that, but the railroads are ever expanding by every single month of the year. For example, Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway opened up the world's first quadruple track mainline located in the Powder River Basin of Wyoming. This is due to increasing demand of coal to be used as an alternative fuel source for automobiles and such.

Not only are railrads expanding to touch more alternative fuel sources and such. They are expanding, in record numbers, their abilities to ship goods to and from American ports. This includes expansion of both current and non-current lines to standards that can handle the increased amount and the increased size in traffic. Railroads here in the states are expanding at levels that have not been seen before. There are two examples that come to my mind when it comes to expansion.

A little over five years ago, Norfolk Southern Railway announced the Heartland Corridor Project as an expansion for their lines to be able to handle an increase in intermodal traffic. These lines are located primarily in West Virginia, Virginia, & Ohio. Included in this project were two intermodal facilities that will handle the increase in intermodal shipments. The term intermodal means that one form of transporting goods can be adapted to other means of transportation. These two facilites do not even make up a quarter of the cost of the $150+ million dollar project. One of the facilities, located at the former Rickenbacker Air Force Base in Ohio, has been open since March of this year

The reason as to why......

The reason as to why autoracks are built as big and as long as they are is simple. For the railroads to be able to transport automobiles efficiently to and from the automakers, you have to have a car that will handle the amount of space that automobiles take up. This is also a way to make it cheaper and quicker for automobiles to be shipped to market. The typical autorack can hold eight full-size sedans or four full-size sport utility vehicles. Currently, automobile transport is one of the top two commodities that railroads ship these days.

However, there are still some drawbacks when it comes to shipping automobiles by rail. Autoracks cannot handle curves whose radius is greater than fourty-five to fifty degrees. Some rail lines still cannot handle the excess length of these cars due to height and radius restrictions. For autoracks to be able to clear most tunnels, the tunnels themselves would require heights of twenty to twenty five feet in height and a minimum eight to ten foot clearance on either side. This would also include the minimum ten foot swing radius if the car were to be going into a curve. What will hapeen to the cars when they hit a tighter radius, is that the cars will not be able to negotiate the tight radius. When that happens, the cars will overturn onto their sides. When this occurs, you could loose a couple million dollars worth of automobiles and equipment in one accident. I do not know how many times I have heard of incidents like this happening due to misjudgment by the train crews themselves.

As for people not knowing as to how the railroads work. I also suggest that the average Joe Blow does attend a model train show in the not to distant future. Also, I do suggest that the average person take up railfanning as a hobby and get to know some railroaders like most of us 'foamers' have done so.

Just my dollar twenty five's worth of opinion on this topic again. To the railfans on here, ya'll keep ya train watching safe and legal.

[edit on 29-9-2008 by gimmefootball400]

I've never seen cattle cars cause such fear in people. Even though there's no slaughter house for 50 miles from Heartland, doesn't mean the cars aren't being transported to a slaughter house...hence why they use the railroad...wow....

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
People need to remember Amtrak is Federally owned. It IS the government.

Hah, Amtrak is so poorly underfunded that they can not even make the trains run on time and I am supposed to be concerned that they are somehow invloved in a nefarious plot to haul us out to Beech Grove, Indiana to be what? Exterminated?

People need to remember that many Government facilities have dual uses.

Just not this one.

Yes, it was an Amtrak repair site.

(bolding is mine)

Do not couch your explaination in the past tense. The facility is still an Amtrak repair center and you have failed to produce any evidence to backup your claim that it is a F.E.M.A. 'concentration camp'. Other then a shoddily filmed Youtube vidoe, which was preoccupied with zooming in and out on supposed incriminating 'evidence' like high-tension power lines and chain link fences, you have shown zero proof. Christ, by that persons definition I have a 'camp' two blocks away.....oh wait, it just might be the local utility company.

Post some evidence backing up your assertion that Beech Grove has been closed and 650 people lost their jobs because I am calling hoax on your claims.

[edit on 29-9-2008 by AugustusMasonicus]

Originally posted by thrashee

Originally posted by Simplynoone
Now you can just go ahead and believe that all is well ...but I for one will not be fooled anymore by them ......
Maybe you feel good believing them ..but I feel good about not believing them .

But not trusting the government and believing there is some global conspiracy to march people off to death camps--by the way, for no apparent reason, as no one here has bothered explaining WHY they would do this yet--are two different things entirely.

Hey M8y
Neither did I.
I said secure military holding/processing centers. OK OK. Lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater yet.

I mean if it happened, it would be drilled by the military would it not? which is unlikely....I know, I know, I hear ya "never happen" no way. NOT EVER.

But you must acknowledge the peoples fear/apprehension regarding these turbulent times. You got wars sucking your sap. You got the economy in the craphouse. You got politicians/banks/ers/+/-W shafting you in every orifice, you KNOW its hitting the pan..You smell the stink of something gone very bad..

I KNOW, fear is not good, hey governments use us and fear all the time. I aint trying to instill revolt..I also aint saying something new... but people do remember The concentration camps. Wars scars deep, especially wars..

And it was a military operation Adolph put in place. The Jews or Germans never believed it could happen either. German farmers reported lines of "cattle trucks" trolling past for years with human cargo. Ordinary German folk and town representatives, who lived beside or near the concentrations camps could not believe it either.. and were consequently "escorted directly to the camps" to witness the murder scene with their own eyes when us guys finally showed up, I served in Germany in the Brit army and even I found it hard to comprehend the size of Auswitch/Belson. 25000+ single graves!!!...

We need to remember the past and learn from it. Not repeat it. I don't think/believe/presently any governmental strong arm is capable of that at the minute, not on home turf, But I AM watching my 6.

By Discussing the very prospect of a potential Martial Law we are hopefully putting in place necessary safeguards and precautions for it NOT and never to occur or take place should those "that would be" even consider it.

I would prefer the topic of Martial Law out in the open on the INTERNET and for all to see discuss/expose..Rather than stored up in a genie bottle like Adolf's final solution for the Jews.

I live in Ireland. I suppose its like "outside looking in" This country has more #ty history to shake a stick at. It sounds like you living in "it'll never happin m8" but ufortualty SH1t does happen.
Guess livin over here can bestows that atttiude on ya.

Best be prepared for the worst, live for peace and hopefully were all discussing a pile of horse manure. (cue John Lennon...Imagine)

Peace as always
Kirky



[edit on 29-9-2008 by kirky]

[and hopefully were all discussing a pile of horse manure.]

I am with you on that one ..and I hope your right and we are all wrong ...seriously I do ..these are the times I HOPE that my instincts are incorrect ..lol ....

[edit on 29-9-2008 by Simplynoone]

I have lived by this rail station for over 30 years, it is just a repair facility. Want to take a tour? check this link, repair facility thats it, no FEMA, no prison camp, nothing but broken train cars.

www.trainweb.org...