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posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:45 PM
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Here's a perspective from a christian view: No flaming; I just offer up another perspective!

At the end of the age there will be a stand off between good and evil. These beings claim to be good, but I wouldn't trust in it. They will even say some are good and some evil as you described in your conversation with Amraphel and Orzeml and your encounter with an evil one as well. The bible says that God will allow some forces to come for judgment upon a sin-sick world. His judgment also allows for us a chance to be forgiven if we ask. I think the aliens are satan's seed from Genesis 3. I also think the aliens are part of satan's end time strategy to deceive, as Jesus described 'a strong delusion' in the end of time.

Notice how they call hebrews, Moses, et al liars and thieves, etc. And there is no God at all. They have a hatred toward anything that relates to the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. Next time they come if you want to test it just say, 'The Lord Jesus rebuke you' and see what happens, that will give you some answers. But before you do that you first must be open to the possibility that Jesus is real, first pray if you are real, show me.

I hope that you will have peace, it's sounds like you are being tested, and we will see more of this as we see the Day approach.




posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by seeker11
I stumbled upon this thread and have been reading everything because I find it intriguing.

When I saw this reply it reminded me of an article I read a while back about an American dirt farmer named Dave Hudson. While he was doing an analysis on his dirt he discovered something extremely strange about the soil.

Read about it here

Scroll down about a quarter of the way if you want to skip to his story and where his research led him. It's rather fascinating and is all about this subject and talks about those exact numbers. 5000 C for 70 seconds. It's rather lengthy but is also really interesting if you're interested.

Anyways, it popped into my head instantly when I saw your reply so enjoy the read.



Thanks for the link, will give it the full read.


Now, a real CONspiracy would be that smokingman2006 got the monoatomic gold information from that article and not from "other" sources...though I don't really dwell there, I prefer to give everyone a benefit of a doubt, until proven otherwise.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 04:08 AM
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Good morning to all

The positive power generated from this thread is proof of the marvel of the energy source within us all

We human have a right to be a sometimes confused and lost race take any race and split them up then give them a dozen different beliefs all contradictory to each other and you have the means to divide any race.
To further confuse things make them value Gold, then money and finally material things over each other and then you really have a race on the path to self destruction.

A lot of posters have asked why are the Aliens helping us?

I too asked this question and was told this, by them helping us by nudging us back onto our intended path they are also helping themselves as any increase towards a positive path helps all things in the realm of creation and also greatly benefits the cosmic energy force of things.

I am not certain what this means but can see no negative in this reasoning

We are all tired to the same thread of energy and only the highest evolved lifeforms understand and respect that which is why there are many Aliens races who operate with the same selfless aims as we human and this too is a form of brainwashing of the highest order as it steals our right for us to realize who we could be.

I have been given many more ways to combat against this negative field that has been placed in our path and will post more shortly.

As Stated by some posters I have limited skills in writing and am no Shakespeare but my strength will come from my knowledge.

Peace be with you.

Smokingman


[edit on 11-10-2008 by smokingman2006]



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:37 PM
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Just wanted to say that i love this topic and have been following it for little more than a week. Smokingman and citizenc, thanks for showing up and sharing your words with the rest of us. I like your way of communicating with the world.

Keep up the good work! And good luck in the times to come.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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Your experience?

You saying you have been visited too?



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:16 PM
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Citizenc, I read your posts, well written and beautiful, but I'm still lost haha, so what are you saying we should do? Just feel positive? And then what?


Thanks.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 05:32 PM
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[edit on 11-10-2008 by Good2Go]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 05:11 AM
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Thank you for you thoughts harman I find you one of the most active minds on these boards

But the world has gone mad in most parts when you think that to be a role model today all you need is to be famous for nothing more than taking your clothes off, making a porno movie or just being rich and excessive, theses are the people that our new generation look up to and strive to become.

With this corrupt mentality is it a wonder that the true values of life are thrown aside by most.
Changes begin here and now and every positive thinker and doer makes the world of difference.
The positive aspect of this is anything that can be programed man or machine can be reprogramed very easy..........




[edit on 12-10-2008 by smokingman2006]

[edit on 12-10-2008 by smokingman2006]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 01:36 AM
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So, is everyone ready for the ships appearance 10-14-08 by the Federation of Light..(per Blossom Goodchild)they are letting the world know they are arround and this ship represents many entities of the Galaxy..they will be appearing regualrly until they feel the earth is ready for actual contact..they state their appearance will create a stir, and they want All People to be aware of them, and they will send an energy of Love and Peace....



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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Thank you for paying attention to our efforts...

I published a thread on simple, non-spectacular, everyday things that ANYBODY can do to begin bettering themselves and the environment around them.
Give it a try.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And then, the question had me laughing too, not only because of the seeming great simplicity behind it, but because, at the end, we end up realizing the medicine is indeed much easier to find than what we are generally led to believe...

The answer is twofold:

-Yes, be Positive.
Staying on this side of balance, as Beamish beautifully reminded us, colors every aspect that is then touched by our understanding, like when you fall in love and all of a sudden the world becomes a wonderful place again...

-The reasons as to WHY do something apparently so simple and meaningless become more complex, and some material to begin to understand it can be found in my previous posts.

People have not been taught (yet!) to realize the importance of their NOT AT ALL PRIVATE thoughts and emotions, and the time is coming where, almost forcefully, humanity is having to face the consequences of its thoughts, actions and emotions.

What is "happening" now is none other than what ALL people have created, whether it was done willfully and consciously or not. EVERYTHING IS A LOGICAL CONSEQUENCE OF SOMETHING ELSE, seen or unseen, deliberate or not.
I said it before that we all CREATE our reality and in ways that people in general NEED to become aware of.

It may or may not be clear as to HOW the Logic of our thoughts, emotions and actions applies to creating and MODIFYING reality, therefore, while these aspects of our nature become more apparent to us as a SPECIES, what can be done at the very least is work from the ground up in some areas of particular importance nowadays.

This means that, while people begin to grasp wider spectrums of their true nature and abilities, efforts need to be made to avoid gross misuses of those "powers" while still intuitive and relatively involuntary.

This is why we have tried to reinforce two basic statements here:

-That people's energies have been used and sometimes misdirected by ones that have been capable of knowing how to do this, and while people's participation as dormant walkers-through-life continues.

-That the events that Smokingman has been warned about through his contacts, as well as other more "earthly" manifestations, are WARNINGS of the path "chosen" (even involuntarily), and that, as the definition goes, a warning comes BEFORE the fact, either to learn from the event due, or even to avoid a possibly disastrous course when the will and the way become available.

So you see, to resume the answer, a safer way of approaching the DIRECTION in which we as humanity move, is to stay positive, generally optimistic and COMPETENT as we live our potentials, our abilities and dear emotions as we chase after our dreams.
This will, at the very least, energize the more deliberate efforts being made for the sakes of humanity, and not those against it. I repeat something I said before: If you are not a part of the solution, you are inadvertently part of the problem.

Some of the "problems" that will come are inevitable. They have already been "chosen" at deeper levels.
Yet problems are put in our way so that we can find that we are not only capable of finding the solutions, but also and more importantly, that we are grown and more mature after every difficulty.

So before full realizations of these and other aspects of our inner nature become fully grasped by every individual, we can at least color our expectations with brighter hues and perspectives.
The strength of such small details can be so powerful, and let's not neglect that life itself becomes more beautiful, even in the most dire of circumstances.

[edit on 13-10-2008 by citizenc]



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by nfdw47
So, is everyone ready for the ships appearance 10-14-08 by the Federation of Light..(per Blossom Goodchild)they are letting the world know they are arround and this ship represents many entities of the Galaxy..they will be appearing regualrly until they feel the earth is ready for actual contact..they state their appearance will create a stir, and they want All People to be aware of them, and they will send an energy of Love and Peace....


This would go against the non-intervention policy that the good aliens (Galactic Federation?) obey. Ironic that it's only the evil aliens that seem to break that rule.

[edit on 10/13/2008 by Matrix1111]



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 08:39 AM
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The previous was an answer to the first questions...

To the "Then what?" one...

Here I will tie it to Beamish's questions on what would happen if Smokingman's visions, or other "events" do in fact take place.

Repeating myself, some of the difficult events are already in store.
They are as of now a part of our "timeline" if you may. Again, so that some BADLY NEEDED lessons can be learned.

What CAN BE AVOIDED is the extent of the "harshness" of some lessons in store.

Humanity is on the brink of making a leap in Understanding, and we hope it wil happen sooner than later, and in the LEAST traumatic way possible.

What a more DELIBERATE and POSITIVE approach to life can do, is enable us to attract more beneficial and pleasant experiences, while the new mental and energetic avenues approached will prepare us for DEEPER and more sophisticated outlooks with which to view ourselves, our "future" and the world we create.

Education and awakening go together, and this will happen more quickly and smoothly as humanity's efforts become more willful, unselfish and voluntary.

The present way of life will NOT do, and some of the gravest problems connected with the present financial crisis come from the ILLUSION that living through taking a credit on everything from the environment, on other people's resources, on one's own emotions and those around us, on the goodwill of our neighbors, and on our spiritual growth can go on indefinitely.

So in short, what we HOPE happens is:

-that we avoid the rougher delivery of some of the necessary lessons in our path,
-that we avoid ALTOGETHER some potentially catastrophic events that are NOT necessary for humanity to learn its lessons, but are being put into motion by others for their own greed and purposes,

-and that, through contact with our inner, deeper selves, AS WELL AS with our friends from "other places", we can become more of what we can be, and exist and express our sense of Divinity accordingly.

No matter what happens, personally, I would want that we as Humanity can look in the eye any visitor and future event with the dignity and integrity that we may deserve, and that only true Understanding can inherently offer.

The will to do this, as He said once, can move mountains...

[edit on 13-10-2008 by citizenc]



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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Smokingman,

Thanks for your contributions.

Glad to hear that this thread is uplifting powerful energy. Is ATS just a small portion of this entire planet though? It is almost that this needs to get out onto the global scale somehow.

What if humanity spiritually awakens, but that still means Nibiru is coming. Are you saying that positive energy on a global scale can repel this astrological body from destroying us and possibly the entire planets life?

Because, I think eventually mankind will wake up, but it is going to take more than 3 years.

Will the Plaediands destroy Nibiru from causes catastrophic damage?

Also, how does this Nibiru play into effect things to come? Is there alien life on this Nibiru?

Thanks and kind regards.

Bubbapug1985



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by seeker11
i wonder who the lucky 144,000 will be.

im guessing not myself


ah well.
life must go on.


if your karma is not good, it can't be you



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 03:17 AM
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Good morning readers

Yesterday a lot of posters and readers felt let down on ATS when the predictions of a large UFO failed to happen.
While most were waiting and watching the skies I was visited yet again by Amizarac who had just returned from her task of repealing another breed of Aliens entering our solar system.
I ask her if theses were the guys that Blossom had talked about and was told no,

The GFL is a myth and nothing more and Blossom is most likely a victim of some human mind distortion weapon similar to what has been tested in operation blue beam.

Amizarac explained to me that we have been mind screwed on many occasions in our short history and as she said this she reached over and placed both her hands over my head.

All of a sudden I am aboard this very small craft hovering over a very old large town down below I see a crowd of people following this man dragging a cross with four Roman soldiers by his side, I watch seeing this poor dirty rag tag man struggling with pain and anguish makes his way slowly up this hill.

Once at the top of the hill, he is staked to this cross by the Roman soldiers and it is erected upright into the ground the large crowd are enraged and very upset.

Then all of a sudden the sky turns black and angry cloud come rolling in then heavy rain start as well as thunder and lighting and everyone runs for there lives and the man is left hanging there by himself on the cross.

Then out of the shadows appear three robed people who take down the cross, free the man and then disappear with him into to back streets of this town.

I then understood this vision Jesus never died on the cross and the two thief that were suppose to be hanging on each side of him are made up too,

And all this was recorded by Amizarac people thousands of years ago nearly the same way we record things today.........

This vision disappears and I am back with my friend Amizarac she explains that human truth and real truth are very much different in many ways.

She also says that most Alien races are not ready for mass human contact due to the nature of our government and unstable state of mind of the human race.

She also says that all this is about to change as we enter this new positive field in our evolution and that many on this planet are resisting these changes in fear of losing the old ways they have become accustomed to.

We are at a very important crossroad in our history and this frightens many of our rulers and slave masters......

I and others like me have a very important calling in this life and this calling if successful will change our direction of life for the better and give us valuable understanding of many things in the near future.




[edit on 15-10-2008 by smokingman2006]

[edit on 15-10-2008 by smokingman2006]



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 07:39 AM
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The positive power generated from this thread is proof of the marvel of the energy source within us all


How is this positive power manifesting? Are you referring to the posts you are getting that are in support of your claims? And considering I still am not of the opinion that you are receiving tuition from aliens (elsewhere, maybe), am I to be considered a source of negativity? That is not my goal.
Today is a particularly poignant day for me, for reasons that I will not go into here. I am filled with sad reflection, but am continuing to be uplifted and optimistic at the thought of what might have been, and what can be achieved in the future. I am being positive, where I could quite easily wallow in remorse. How does that sit with your viewpoint regarding those who do not believe you?


We human have a right to be a sometimes confused and lost race…


I don’t believe we are confused as a race per se, rather we are on a continuous path of learning. It is leading us to re-evaluate our knowledge on an almost daily basis, and often opens up new, and often unexpected, avenues of illumination. This frequently clashes with the deeper understandings ingrained in religious belief. But more and more we find accepted religions embracing the findings of science. Take the Pope’s recent declarations as to the possible existence of ET. There was no denial there. Scientists will, and do, combine theoretical and exploratory research with faith, finding one completely compatible with another. One example of many:

Actually, I find no conflict here, and neither apparently do the 40 percent of working scientists who claim to be believers... I have found there is a wonderful harmony in the complementary truths of science and faith. The God of the Bible is also the God of the genome. God can be found in the cathedral or in the laboratory. By investigating God's majestic and awesome creation, science can actually be a means of worship.

edition.cnn.com...

And that from someone who believes wholeheartedly that Jesus was who he says he was. So where is the harm in faith remaining, or at least contributing to, the driving force behind our spiritual and intellectual growth? I have no problem with men of learning and devotion decoding what could well be the core mysteries of life. Their dedication to a defining belief system can only give them a focus and enthusiasm undreamed of by many charlatans and purveyors of false doctrines who do, and will, fall by the wayside when their own fantasies run out of steam, wither and die. You do not have to adhere to the spiritual translation of their findings, but none can deny they are improving our lot. And that they’re also beginning to open up a whole new future for us all.

In light of that, how does this:


…I see a crowd of people following this man dragging a cross with four Roman soldiers by his side, I watch seeing this poor dirty rag tag man struggling with pain and anguish makes his way slowly up this hill...out of the shadows appear three robed people who take down the cross, free the man and then disappear with him into to back streets of this town. I then understood this vision Jesus never died on the cross and the two thief that were suppose to be hanging on each side of him are made up too


equate to any form of positive education for anyone?
All the above quote is doing is perpetrating an age-old practice of denial and control. In openly stating that you have received knowledge of a world-famous incident, something that is as un-provable as your own claims, you are doing the self same thing you accuse our supposed evil masters of. You are manipulating the thoughts and aspirations of others with evocative and lurid visualizations, ultimately to direct them towards your own purpose.
Is this not the case?

How can you say that Jesus did not exist as we understand him with such confidence, when in the same breath you say this awareness was given to you by an alien?

Who can tell who is right and who is wrong?

Your dismissal of our history (and like it or not Jesus is part of our history) is moot because both assessments of what actually happened are equally as ephemeral in their nature.

This is where your reasoning collapses, again, as you expect us to believe you, but not the words handed down across thousands and thousands of years of history. Jesus may not have been the Son of God, but then again he may have been an enlightened individual who came into contact with elevated beings. Sound familiar?


To further confuse things make them value Gold, then money and finally material things over each other and then you really have a race on the path to self destruction.


Weren’t you a futures dealer?

(Continued...)



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 07:41 AM
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(...Continued)


I…was told this, by them helping us by nudging us back onto our intended path they are also helping themselves as any increase towards a positive path helps all things in the realm of creation and also greatly benefits the cosmic energy force of things …I am not certain what this means but can see no negative in this reasoning


This, surely, speaks of universal balance. I can’t possibly imagine why you, as one who has:


…been given many more ways to combat against this negative field that has been placed in our path…I and others like me have a very important calling in this life and this calling if successful will change our direction of life for the better and give us valuable understanding of many things in the near future


cannot comprehend the simple precept of balance in the universe. It is a very common theme:


Your life, body, Soul, and conscious mind are all in a balance scale system. What you need to do, in my opinion, is to take a look at your life and see what is out of balance as far as where this negative energy is coming from. It's a very basic philosophy. The Universe works on a very basic philosophy, it is energy, and it is either going to be one kind of energy or another kind of energy.


www.radioastrology.com...


We believe in the formless and eternal Tao, and we recognize all personified deities as being mere human constructs. We reject hatred, intolerance, and unnecessary violence, and embrace harmony, love and learning, as we are taught by Nature. We place our trust and our lives in the Tao, that we may live in peace and balance with the Universe, both in this mortal life and beyond." Creed of the Reform Taoist Congregation


www.religioustolerance.org...


It is suggested that the Doppler effect by means of which both Big Bang and Steady State cosmologies account for the increase of redshift with distance from the earth can be supplanted by the 'tired light' hypothesis of Zwicky (1929). As interpreted by Shelton (1954), this hypothesis holds that the Compton transition interactions of photons with the electrons of an intergalactic electron gas can yield the increase of redshift with distance. Given this, the universe is not expanding and may instead be described as boundless, timeless (without time or point of origin) and in a state of equilibrium


adsabs.harvard.edu...


Call to mind the whole of Substance of which you have a very small portion, and the whole of time whereof a small hair’s breadth has been determined for you, and of the chain of causation whereof you are how small a link. Constantly think of the Universe as one living creature, embracing one being and one soul; how all is absorbed into the one consciousness of this living creature; how it compasses all things with a single purpose, and how all things work together to cause all that comes to pass, and their wonderful web and texture.


www.spaceandmotion.com...

Yet, you go on to say (my correction):


We are all tired (tied) to the same thread of energy…


Surely that indicates a glimmer of understanding? Why the discrepancy in your previous denial of understanding?

And also, this seems a little contradictory:


We are all tired (tied) to the same thread of energy and only the highest evolved lifeforms understand and respect that which is why there are many Aliens races who operate with the same selfless aims as we human and this too is a form of brainwashing of the highest order as it steals our right for us to realize who we could be.


So, we’re all tied together, the most advanced life-forms and us. Ok, but you are suggesting here that we (humans) share the same selfless aims. What about our supposed universal reputation as “Jack the Rippers”? We’re a race of selfless, altruistic murderers? That doesn’t make sense.

And what do you mean as to this being a form of brainwashing? Our selfless aims are a form of indoctrination into a regime of denial? I’m lost…

I will allow that you may have intended to use the word “selfish” instead of “selfless”


As Stated by some posters I have limited skills in writing and am no Shakespeare but my strength will come from my knowledge.


(I’m not criticizing your English. Again, I’ll ask, have you posted your “contacts” on a French website? If you have, can we have a link so we can read any unadulterated posts?)

But, and under that context, you are stating that we are all connected to the same cosmic energy and “understand and respect” that. Respect is very specific and indicates deference to the capacity this energy has to bind us together as a universal family. The use of “selfish” would jar here. And again, it indicates that the message is not being understood, but copied and pasted.

You are lucky to have some very capable advocates, and one in particular (hi, citizenc), who have deemed to defend your honour and the sincerity of your claims. I would dearly like to see you engage the aforementioned member in discussion. Not in private, but here on the thread.

If you won’t engage me (and as you state you are now occupied with the rigours of a “very important calling” and therefore have subsequently (and presumably) acquired a far deeper understanding of what is happening to you) will you at least occupy some of his time with the more in-depth subject matter this thread implies?



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 07:42 AM
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So how is mr blossom goodchild(oops smokingman I mean) doing. Is he still on about the future and how we must all change. I hope not many people are falling for this as others have fallen for blossom, I only wish that people would use common sense. Come on people he begginning to add things to his story, i mean now he witnessed jesus's death. And if his people knew about blossom and the gfl, why did they not tell him all about them. I find it interesting that they just happened to mention how fake the gfl is and how blossom was manipulated after Oct 14th. I think he was waiting to see what was going to happen and changed his story accordingly.

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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 07:49 AM
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