You have got to be kidding me.


I..... literally am in shock. Im sure some constituents on the other side of the aisle here on ATS will have to agree with me on this one.

How utterly absurd. That is called an EXPRESSION. It's not a sexist remark. The quote from your source is like reading an Op Ed. It was pure conjecture on the part of the reporter to think the ''pig'' in the expression represented a woman or Palin.

You must of glanced over this part of the article.

Obama added that "it is not going to be easy ... John McCain has a compelling biography, you know Sarah Palin is an interesting story." The crowd booed. "No, she’s new!" Obama said. "She hasn’t been on the scene, you know, she’s got five kids and my hat goes off to anybody who’s looking after five. I’ve got two and they tire Michelle and me out!" -- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

UPDATE: Obama senior adviser Robert Gibbs insists the senator was not referring to Palin. "That's an old expression," Gibbs says.

There are plenty of things to attack these candidates on. This is not one of them.
I hope this waste of space of a thread topic gets locked and thrown away.

[edit on 9-9-2008 by bknapple32]

This was at worst a double entandre. Putting lipstick on a pig is such a common part of the language I doubt anyone would actually take it as sexist.

Unless they are a rabid Sarah Palin supporter.

Of course it's an old expression, yet his people are already doing damage control, but it still makes you wonder why he didn't pick Hillary as his running mate.
A sexist or not a sexist, you know damn well it was directed at Palin.

How utterly absurd. That is called an EXPRESSION. It's not a sexist remark. The quote from your source is like reading an Op Ed. It was pure conjecture on the part of the reporter to think the ''pig'' in the expression represented a woman or Palin.

Well, what was Obama referring to then? Was it just an analogy for the sake of analogies? Did it not have to do with Palin's Lipstick on a Pitbull remark during her speech?

Obama is stooping to new lows. From racism to sexism - Obama fears he is losing his footing in this election.

Let me break it down for you since you either seemed hard-pressed to catch onto things or are far left like Obama:

Palin's Speech: "Hockey Moms are Pitbulls with Lipstick"

Obama's Speech: "You can put Lipstick on a Pig, but it is still a Pig"

Do you get it? Or - is being an Obama supporter clouding your political views?

Give me a break. As Alexandro said, you know dam well it was directed at a Palin.

You'd either have to be naive or an Obama supporter which seem to often be one in the same.

Originally posted by jetxnet
Let me break it down for you since you either seemed hard-pressed to catch onto things or are far left like Obama:

Palin's Speech: "Hockey Moms are Pitbulls with Lipstick"

Obama's Speech: "You can put Lipstick on a Pig, but it is still a Pig"

Do you get it? Or - is being an Obama supporter clouding your political views?

Give me a break. As Alexandro said, you know dam well it was directed at a Palin.

You'd either have to be naive or an Obama supporter which seem to often be one in the same.

Seems directed at Palin to me.

I don't know damn well that it was directed at Sarah Palin, thank you. What I do know is that it might not have been the best analogy to use at the time. It's a figure of speech, relax.

Regardless if he meant it to be a shot at Palin or not the other side will make damm sure the impression seems to be that it was meant at Palin.

so did Obama put his foot in his mouth?
I would say yes inadvertantly so.

Originally posted by bknapple32

It was not at all directed at Palin.

Here's a simple question for you. How can YOU KNOW Obama's thoughts now? How can you say definitively it WASN'T directed at Palin?

Can you not understand what the expression means? It has nothing to do with male/female!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wrong. Lipstick is generally something female's wear.


Let me break it down for you...

A couple of weeks ago Obama had a big lead.

McCain picked Palin as VP.

Palin had 40 million people watch her destroy everything about Obama's persona -his styrofoam columns, his memoirs vs. laws, his wife's lack of pride in her country, his parting of the waters, etc.

During this speech, Palin made a joke about the difference between her and a pitbull was that SHE WEARS LIPSTICK.

This line was THE most replayed sound bite of her speech.

Obama, giving a speech, chose to use the pig and lipstick metaphor. He also followed that with an "OLD fish" metaphor. Not dead fish. OLD fish.

It was either a sexist cheap shot, or easily perceived as one. If the former, it says something about his character. If the latter, it says something about him being so clueless that he didn't realize he would be labeled a sexist for this comment. Either way, he looks bad.

Get it?

I don't know damn well that it was directed at Sarah Palin, thank you. What I do know is that it might not have been the best analogy to use at the time. It's a figure of speech, relax.

The original analogy is this: "If you polish a Tird, it is still a Tird".

The above is the ORIGINAL analogy.

Obama just changed it (he's all about change you know) and adapted to Palin's lipstick comment.

Why did the crowd laugh and cheer at such a basic analogy? It's because they, too, knew it was directed at Palin.

Obama can do no wrong in your eyes. You have placed him on a rediculous pedastal built on a House of Cards.