Originally posted by JacKatMtn



OK folks,

I just wanted to chime in here BEFORE it goes TOO far.

Keep the emotions in check,

It is very obvious that this topic can be construed a variety of different ways, depending on each of your viewpoints and positions.

Please, Let's keep it civil

Whether the quote was intentional, or bad tiiming, let's not resort to attacking each other over this issue.

There will be PLENTY of MORE IMPORTANT discussions to be had as we close in on November.

I want to see ALL of YOU here throughout this election season, all sides and voices are important.

Consider this a preemptive post.

Now that's what I'm talking about. This does not prohibit free speech but "moderates" the mood. Thankyou.

When do enough "bad judgements" and "gaffes" and stammering answers that are "above my paygrade" start to hurt his campaign? Look at the polls, he is not on the high ground and the slope is getting very slippery.
Nothing but attacks and poor taste are coming from him, and I do believe McCain's camp demanded an apology for this one.

The next step is the media will abandon ship so they don't go down with it. It is very close to happening. Obama may fail but the MSM must go on.

Well its very obvious that he is referring to Palin and not to women in general, so there is no reason, that I can think of to be offended.

Originally posted by skeptic1

So, according to you, he's either clueless or sexist? Then, don't vote for him.

No, it's not political baiting at all. It was a pretty specific analysis of the situation.

If he DID make the comment intentionally it reflects on his character. If not, it reflects on his understanding of how the comment would be taken. To me it sounds like he's basically calling Palin a pig, and the crowd took it as such.

And I also believe it is an indication that Obama is imploding, and his mantra of change is transforming into a reality of same old politics.

Does it anger you that this is the conclusion I formed? I'm not sure what about this would be political baiting. I wasn't comment on another poster. I didn't call anybody any names.

i find it amusing that the palin supporters are so quick to apply what obama said as being about palin.

kinda makes you wonder what freud would think about such an association.

i dont know about the US but here colloqueism and metaphors are used quite regularly by politicians in an effort to appear working class or a friend there of.

when i read the pig quote i thought it applied to the republicans and how their mantra of change is a deceit..

things that make you go hmmm....

Euphemisms get taken out of context only if they are blurted by people on the right.
What do you suppose would happen if McCain/Palin called Obama a knuckle dragger when it comes to taking a stand since it's obvious he consistently votes "present"?

And, this has now made Fox News on Hannity and Colmes.....Even Mike Huckabee doesn't think this was a swipe at Palin and McCain.

Although, linking the two lipstick remarks does make me think a bit.

Let the games begin!!

[edit on 9/9/2008 by skeptic1]

Originally posted by mateandbucky06
Well its very obvious that he is referring to Palin and not to women in general, so there is no reason, that I can think of to be offended.

Well yeah, there is a reason to be offended if he was referring to Palin.

To help you understand, let me reverse the scenario. If McCain said something like, "Obama is too inexperienced to run the country. You just can't MONKEY around with national security," he would probably be arrested for committing a hate crime.

Originally posted by loam


What you said might make more sense if Palin hadn't used the lipstick comment to describe herself days before.

Exactly!

Anybody with half a brain knows this was a swipe at Palin. Obama says he is about change. I don't see any thing in him but the same old same old.

Note: I just want to clarify that I'm not saying that anybody here has only half a brain. No insult was intended and the remark is just a figure of speech



Edit to include above note.

[edit on 9-9-2008 by LiquidMirage]

You Palin supporters are a bunch of hypocrits. McCain must be a sexist too because he used the same context when talking about Hillary Clintons heathplan in October 2007.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.

www.swamppolitics.com...

So we get a picture but no video of him saying this. Only hearsay on a leftist political blog.

Hmmm.

Personally I wouldn't read to much into it. Yes, Obama was trying to tie Gov. Palin in with the pig comment. It's playground tactics but then this is politics so what do you expect? He's off his rocker to think that personal insults are going to win the election. What's funny is that just before this comment he was making some valid points. *Wooosh* That's the sound of his valid argument being flushed out with the thoughtless personal jab. Now we'll only remember the stupid part of what he said.

Obama without a written script is a true blessing to the Republicans.