Originally posted by bloodcircle
Honestly, they could advertise apartments on Mars in the Martian Hilton and it would NOT impact you one jot.
Well I have nothing on the Martian Hilton but I DO have documents and plans on the LUNAR Hilton... Direct from Barron Hilton himself. John Lear was
his personal pilot out of the Flying M Ranch here in Nevada when the plans were drawn up in the 60's

And Bigelow already has two of the Gemini
"Hotel in Space: modules up. They were launched from the space port he bought in Russia and I am tracking both modules' location live on my
website
Flying M Ranch was also the place where Steve Fossett disappeared from recently... Plane and all... Since he filed no flight plan, told no one where
he was going, I bet they offered him New Adventures off world
. They don't need to hide anything from us, especially with people already assuming that they do - you're doing their job for them, mr Guy
Incognito.
Well they hide less stuff than you imagine... but as you say the 'sheeple' are too blind to see what is 'hidden in plain sight' and to lazy to
follow leads to data
The problem is not that they have to hide stuff... but the military mind that truly believes in the 'Need to Know' culture. Everyone knows the CIA
FBI DIA but do you know how many spook agencies we REALLY have? I can link you if you like... and now we have the Space Spooks... the all encompassing
(even higher than the NSA and NRO) National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency NGA
Notice the clever way they used a hyphen to keep it a Three Letter Club?
The other REALLY big issue is that people still believe that NASA is the ONLY space program

Do you realize how big Space Command is? Did you know
that when Shuttle Atlantis was delayed that the OTHER space program reconfigured the launch pad in a record 36 hours to launch a top secret NRO
satellite that was supposed to go up on the Shuttle?
They used the OTHER mission control for that... I wonder what the rush was? This record setting mission was even reported in local Florida news... but
few know it happened
Also most of the data I get is not found easily on the internet... you need to look at .mil sites... you need to file FOIA requests (watch Cliffs
Banner appear below my post

)... you need to click 'accept' when the .mil certificate notice pops up... and many will not tread there...
The above post on the NAVY Cadre comes from a subscription to a publication issued by AF Space Command...
You should see all the documents on Lunar and Martian mining at LPI, Norcat and Colorado School of Mines...
Here is one clipping...
REPORT ON THE CONSTRUCTION AND TESTING OF A
BUCKET WHEEL EXCAVATOR
....is presently engaged in the development and adaptation of existing mining technologies and methodologies
for use
extra-terrestrially as precursor and enabling technologies for
ISRU and for use as ISSE in support of longer term missions.
More specifically, NORCAT, in collaboration with Colorado School of Mines,
has developed, constructed, and tested a bucket wheel
excavator. The unit is based upon the design developed by CSM’s Mike Duke and Tim Muff.
Okay so burn that term ISRU into your mind... what it means is "What's found on the Moon... Stays on the Moon" Also Tim Muff now works for Lockheed
Skunkworks
Other than the CT taint, great pic Zorgon ! very interesting.
Did you read the sign on the door? ATS Biggest CT site on the Planet
And since it is my contention that we are and have been active on the Moon and Mars since the 60's.... well yeah... I 'slant' my posts to reflect
this
It is such a shame that only one organisation controls the things we get to see, it'd be great to have a poll which could influence the manner in
which we utilise the space program, from a pedestrian perspective.
NASA is NOT the only game in town There is ESA, and JAXA (though they do work with NASA)
But the real space program is the Military... You will NOT see the word NASA in any of the material on the following pages... and THIS info is just
what they put in their press releases... it doesn't even cover the good stuff like the OTHER tether that they fired lasers at (which I will show
tomorrow as I have the release okay)
Space Command Buildup
Space Command Units
(I check and I check, and still spell martian wrong.. zoinks!)
Try Martian instead of martian
One more note on the Mining thingy... and why NASA won't use the word
Private letter snippet from an insider.."
On the mining-thing. I can only state that in the broadest of senses mining operations have taken place on the lunar surface and are presently
being conducted on Mars. Although the use of terminology, 'mining' has been downplayed (by NASA) and there exists an 'internal memo' n NASA that
'recommends' non-reference to the terms, 'mining, micro-mining'>...
{{{clipped specific details - you don't have a need to know

}}}
Use of terminology, e.g., 'mining', could be considered (by some countries) to constitute a violation of the International Space Treaty. Thus, NASA
is real-careful about use of terminology that could be considered a breach of 'Policy and Protocol'. I can give you this stuff as it's 'public
information'. You have to look between the spaces/lines for more info and draw your own conclusions.
[edit on 29-8-2008 by zorgon]