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Alternative 3's Base on Mars Discovered?

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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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if you did, then you would have answered my questions.
maybe even replied to my entire post since it completely shoots your angry rant to me down.
how about an appology for going off when you can quite clearly see that i came here in honest pursuit of more information about YOUR thread before others were completely rude to me?
how about an answer to my alternative 3 question?
how about pointing out this architecture in any way that might delineate something from this nothing that i see?

you post what you want of my posts and call me angry. i show you what really went down and all you have one little sarcastic remark? good show sir. way to ignore anything you dont like and just respond to what you can be rude about. i wil not hold my breath for any answers to the above things. thanks so much for being so open and sharing. your helpful reply will clearly illustrate your desire to share information and not just angrily berate.




posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Azrael75
how about an answer to my alternative 3 question?


I answered your question twice now about my reference to alternative 3... please read what I said.



how about pointing out this architecture in any way that might delineate something from this nothing that i see?


I high lighted what I see in the OP... many others have also high lighted the same feature... I cannot do anything to 'make you see' On my 19 inch monitor the image is clear and easy to see... If the image is blurry to you there are several possible causes

If you are using AOL on a dialup AOL compresses images by down grading them... Your monitor may not be right I cannot see what you see so I cannot help

All I can do is suggest you download the original high res image from the MSSS link and open it in photoshop or similar graphic viewer

Other than this there is nothing else I can do



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Azrael75
you have one little sarcastic remark? good show sir.


Well what I did was show you my website where I have THOUSANDS of pages of evidence and photos collected by many members of Pegasus of which I am the head and co founder...

People like Clark McClelland ex NASA, Russ Hanerly Senior Project Manager at Boeing IT and many others...

Yet you choose to ignore this and continue to disrupt the thread on a personal agenda

Sorry you have taken my posts the wrong way there was no personal insult implied or intended... now please stick to the topic at hand Thanks



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:35 PM
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well i have a 22 inch flat screen and broadband. i see the pics great. that is a dissappointment. i truly hoped that i missed something. apparently i just do not share the hopeful imagination of the rest of you.

i see you claim to have answered my question many times. and each time you do, you do not tell me where that answer is, nor repeat it. i am not going fishing anymore. you dont have an answer, fine. you are angry i did not see your mars base and you retaliate with insults. you still refuse to acknowledge i was attacked first and defended myself well before any 'attitude' for you to attack. sorry i do not see the base. sorry i also did not see that answer and refuse to go back fishing for it when you could have easily repeated it or at least said what page/post it was in by now. you wanted an appology - sorry i questioned you. sorry i am skeptical. sorry i am on ATS so people can openly discuss this stuff. SORRY I OPENED YOUR THREAD!



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:35 PM
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To be completely honest, I took your original post in here as rude myself. Besides Alternative 3, he highlighted what he was talking about very well in his opening post. Not a lot of people do that on here. Most just slap a picture up and assume everyone can see it. He goes through the process of highlighting everything so people know what he's talking about.

Then people like you come in and say "I see nothing" like you see nothing at all (except "organic shapes"
which you didn't explain what you meant by that BTW. it can mean more than one thing) even though he highlights EVERYTHING. Then you have the ones who say "Picture is too blurry, need something more clear". For some reason none of you find it odd that the really clear pictures show nothing most of the time and the blurry ones have all this weird stuff that you can't quite make out like huge objects with perfect right angles and spheres and they wonder why all the images like that are blurred


You had your question answered already, but you keep feeling the need to attack Zorgon about it left and right for no reason at all IMHO. Next time you have a question for someone on here, look under their avatar to see if they're on at the time. If they're not, use a search engine like Google to find your answer. You can't ask a question when someone isn't on and get angry because they don't answer as soon as you asked it. They can't magically sense a question on their topic and sign in to answer.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by nightmare_david]



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Azrael75
you have one little sarcastic remark? good show sir.


Well what I did was show you my website where I have THOUSANDS of pages of evidence and photos collected by many members of Pegasus of which I am the head and co founder...

People like Clark McClelland ex NASA, Russ Hanerly Senior Project Manager at Boeing IT and many others...

Yet you choose to ignore this and continue to disrupt the thread on a personal agenda

Sorry you have taken my posts the wrong way there was no personal insult implied or intended... now please stick to the topic at hand Thanks





maybe it was your attitude


throwing your tantrum


insults taken, i believe i proved them uncalled for. an appology was in order. not derailing, just looking for an answer to whether or not you are claiming this is a base from a television hoax or not. sorry to ask such a complicated question.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:43 PM
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Whether you are right about Zorgons intentions is mute, since you now offended a plethora of people...

Imagination..? What would we do without it? Go thru life dubunking everything because we cannot actually touch the evidence?

Weak sauce man; and not because you have an issue with Zorgon, but because you chose to lump everyone who sees something in this image into the "Imagination" group...

Do I get a scarlet letter sewn into my clothes now...?




posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:44 PM
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Looks more like a farm or a ranch in the way it appears to be sectioned off. Theres a place for the cowbearapes to graze and that building looks like a slaughter house. Note the road to the market.

Seriously, Great find.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:44 PM
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The round hole looking anomaly could very well be a "SKYLITE".???

SIGHTER.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:51 PM
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Thanks

You thinks this one was weird how about the 'dunes'

A Herd of Martian Creatures?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

No they are not really animals
But they are definitely not rocks either



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by nightmare_david
reply to post by Azrael75
 


To be completely honest, I took your original post in here as rude myself. Besides Alternative 3, he highlighted what he was talking about very well in his opening post. Not a lot of people do that on here. Most just slap a picture up and assume everyone can see it. He goes through the process of highlighting everything so people know what he's talking about.

Then people like you come in and say "I see nothing" like you see nothing at all (except "organic shapes"
which you didn't explain what you meant by that BTW. it can mean more than one thing) even though he highlights EVERYTHING. Then you have the ones who say "Picture is too blurry, need something more clear". For some reason none of you find it odd that the really clear pictures show nothing most of the time and the blurry ones have all this weird stuff that you can't quite make out like huge objects with perfect right angles and spheres and they wonder why all the images like that are blurred


You had your question answered already, but you keep feeling the need to attack Zorgon about it left and right for no reason at all IMHO. Next time you have a question for someone on here, look under their avatar to see if they're on at the time. If they're not, use a search engine like Google to find your answer. You can't ask a question when someone isn't on and get angry because they don't answer as soon as you asked it. They can't magically sense a question on their topic and sign in to answer.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by nightmare_david]


i am sorry that my claim to see nothing came across as rude to you because of what most people do. i am also sorry that you feel the need to judge me on those standards. but you admit that the aswer to alternative 3 is not there and then tell me that i had my question answered already?????????? when? you yourself just said that there is no answer to it, then tell me that i am attacking for not havng it answered. fine. that makes perfect sense.

and btw, did you even actually read from the beginning. i never got mad because it was not answered right away. i got mad because people took the time to attack me over and over for asking but still did not answer. there is a difference. i do not understand why everyone is so thin skinned on here. i am not saying there is no base on mars or anywhere else. i said i do not see. someone had cad pics of what they saw so apparently you could do better than some vague outlines of still organic shapes cant ya? or at least they could and you could just wait and let them respond to that.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by Azrael75]



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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In the left corner, hailing from Debunkerville, USA, weighing in at 120lbs, wearing the pink shorts and the "I Love Me" T-shirt, give a big round of applause for Azrael75. . .
And in the right corner, hailing from "Mars, the moon and beyond!", weighing in at 130lbs please welcome Zorgon. . . Clean fight ,no biting or holding in the clinches...

Seriously. . what in the wide wide world of sports is organic shapes?



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by chapter29
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Whether you are right about Zorgons intentions is mute, since you now offended a plethora of people...

Imagination..? What would we do without it? Go thru life dubunking everything because we cannot actually touch the evidence?

Weak sauce man; and not because you have an issue with Zorgon, but because you chose to lump everyone who sees something in this image into the "Imagination" group...

Do I get a scarlet letter sewn into my clothes now...?



look, i dont have an issue with zorgon, he started it with me because i was answering back to the first jerk that was so rude for no reason, or do you all completely skip over that because i am still here so pick on me instead? yeah , i am a little grouchy now because i cannot believe we wasted all these pages arguing over whether or not i asked politely enough instead of just answering me. i got it, there is nothing more zorgon can do to highlight the shapes. i keep hearing there are answers all over about alternative 3 but all i see is a link to a website purporting the exact same hoax that i referred to. so my question was, is this supposed to be real? not the base, this stuff about alt. 3. i am asking. i was asking. i cannot believe i got attacked for asking. i cannot believe i got attacked for not seeing the base. i cannot believe you all keep posting about what a jerk i am instead of just answering the question so i would shut up and go away. i am not looking for feuds here. just answers, or is that not ok anymore???? and dont bother telling me it is, just not rudely - go back to my first post and if you think that was rude, you better go outside and interact with a real person for a change. you are in for a rude awakening. i thank you in advance for not responding with empty rude rhetoric and just actually answering me or ignoring me. either one would be more helpful than filling another page with attacks. thanks.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:08 PM
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Finally, at least some what of a convincing picture of structures on Mars. I usually claim it's all rock formations but..this one kinda just makes me go
nonstop.
Good find.

But could be rock formations, not going to rule that out.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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The problem is that there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of images and only a handful of people willing to take the time to search. The reason more are coming out is simply because more people as a result of these threads are LOOKING


I could not agree more, my friend.

Many people assume that there are millions of NASA employees searching every inch of Martian landscape as well as the millions of employees searching all the other photos taken from the thousands of telescopes searching the heavans. It just isn't true, their budgets couldn't possibly cover the cost of that many employees.

The simple answer is that these photos are offered to the public in the hopes that someone will find something of interest. So, far, its working very well.

There is software in use to help in this process but the software designed to isolate and identify oddities, can only do as much as the programing will allow. The programing is based on, but not limited to, imagination and logical expectation of known shapes and designs.

eagan



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
In the left corner, hailing from Debunkerville, USA, weighing in at 120lbs, wearing the pink shorts and the "I Love Me" T-shirt, give a big round of applause for Azrael75. . .
And in the right corner, hailing from "Mars, the moon and beyond!", weighing in at 130lbs please welcome Zorgon. . . Clean fight ,no biting or holding in the clinches...

Seriously. . what in the wide wide world of sports is organic shapes?


dude, seriously? i am a debunker now am i?????? that is funny. nice to know you can figure that out because i do not see a base in those pictures. i hadly call it debunking to just ask what a blurry grainy pic is really supposed to be. apparently i am the only one that stated i see nothing that any of you noticed but i am far from alone already in not seeing it. that does not mean i do not believe or want to, but it is hard to feel like being more interested here. i was not looking to debunk anything. i know 'alternative 3' so that caught my eye. and the promise of pics of a base on another planet was more than enticing. not to debunk, TO SEE FOR MYSELF. well i do not see them. sorry.

and for all the people that told me to go to goole or look around for answers instead of asking people -people that brought up the subject to begin with even - please watch how easy this is.

organic shapes - shapes without regular repetitions, proper angles, straight lines.

someone asked, i answered. MAGIC



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:13 PM
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Id say this is an instance of "matrixing", and not a true representation of intelligence life had existed on Mars. You say its proof that "humanoids" once lived there..yet there is no proof shown at all that a human shaped body exists. I only see a vaguely human-like image. Why does it seem that everyone thinks that an alien would be humanoid? We are only human shaped due to the randomness of evolution specific to our planet. Another species could very well have evolved and we might have backwards legs and feathers or sume such diffrence. I know it is so much easier to think of aliens as like us, but the fact of the matter is we just dont know anything at all what they would be like. I really do want to know for sure if there is other life out there..I just dont want to put my belief into pipe dreams and frivilous ideas. I mean really...its all about our all too human ego that shapes our ideas of what an intelligent alien would look like. Being the only known intelligent species that we are aware of our ego forces our own shape into what we think an alien should look like.|For all we know an intelligent alien species would be shaped like an octopus with ant legs...who really knows?? I honestly want to thank you for showing me this image.It truly does have the appearance of a humanlike face and gives one a sense of hope and wonder. But till we actually come face to face with an alien ( or at least the government offers full disclosure about what they know) I will withhold my belief in human like aliens.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:13 PM
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So much incredible information being discovered, thank you for all of your dedication and hard work. What a mind blowing gift you have brought us.

Why is this not main stream yet? Could you guys start doing some T.V. Specials? Before someone else runs with all of your efforts?



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:14 PM
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Well my friend, those are quite differing examples. The examples you gave are actual built things, nothing about that 'face' looks remotely made by anything other than nature. Even the earth face (pretty cool by the way, thanks for posting the info on it) was going to look obviously manufactured.

The other mars picture you post looks like sand around part of a rock formation, exposed within its sand. Same idea as before, looking for faces is what we do, just because we say 'hey, that looks like a face!' does not mean it is one, or was made by some intelligence with the intention of appearing as one...



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Seriously. . what in the wide wide world of sports is organic shapes?


Well according to the late great Sir Arthur C Clarke... I think THESE would qualify as ORGANIC SHAPES





Similar Satellite picture on Earth



Similar shapes in Wayne Newtons back yard (the Guest House)



Statement from another crazy person who liked to study photos of Martian anomalies


"I'm 95% convinced that there's no other conclusion..... I fully agree that this is close to incontrovertible evidence of large present or past 'tree-like' organisms on Mars. I do not believe that these will be explained as 'geological features' or illusions. Only closer-in imaging will decide the matter." - Arthur C. Clarke

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