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Originally posted by Anonymous ATSThe limitations of technology are pretty hard evidence to the contrary.
Or perhaps you're suggesting interplanetary travel without computer assistance?
They also would have had to launch dozens of rockets without being noticed, back when such things were alien to the general populace and would be massively conspicuous.
I guess they set up a mining and refinery plant with only the hugely limited resources afforded by what they could carry, and not only built the structures on mars, but produced the raw materials necessary to do so as well.
The logic employed in our reasoning includes the fact that any In Situ Resource Utilization (ISRU) effort is going to yield copious masses of silicon oxides which can be used in bulk as conventional glass products or, after further separation, can be synthesized as Silicon and Silicon- Carbide Fullerenes for more exotic applications. Additionally, mechanical wrapping of Silicon Webbing could prove to be more practical and durable and a lot less brittle than attempting large scale hot glass molding of structural components.
Identified fuel production ISRU efforts yield partially heated masses of metal oxides as waste byproduct – rich in silicates and metal oxides useful in bulk as conventional glass products. Fiberglass manufacturing increases effectiveness of prior ISRU fuel production by taking advantage of mineral benefaction and elevated process exit temperatures. The resulting structures would be spheres and cylinders with various configurations that could apply to human support systems, along with structures useable as storage tanks for the very Oxygen liberated in ISRU applications.
Oh, and being at the equator, they're also magically conjuring up drinking water and air.
Never mind that it would take a small army to accomplish this, along with hundreds, or even thousands, of launches from earth.
Do you really think that somebody managed to cover up that many people? What, did they just kill them all? Do you think hundreds of thousands of people are going to keep quiet about this kind of thing?
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Beginning in the mid-1980s, concurrent with the development of space operations and space engineering curricula at the Naval Postgraduate School, the Navy began “coding” officers as space subspecialists. As space subspecialty codes were then assigned to particular officers’ billets on numbered Fleet staffs and at commands ashore, the service began assigning Navy members with matching codes to those positions. More recently, the Navy has begun efforts to build a cadre of “space smart” officers, enlisted personnel and civilian employees.
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Approximately 265 billets are currently identified as space billets. These jobs are in Navy, joint and National Security Space organizations. Space cadre members are currently assigned throughout the National Security Space arena, including the National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Space Architect, National Security Space Integration, MILSATCOM Joint Program Office, as well as in all Navy organizations that deal with space.
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There's not one shred of evidence for any of this except for some odd pictures, and those only qualify as evidence of your delusions.
(I could keep going but this is getting out of hand).... Or, you're seeing shapes in the clouds.
Originally posted by rocksarerocks
Why of course the base belongs to us. Along with all of your other base. That also belongs to us.
[edit on 28-8-2008 by rocksarerocks]
Originally posted by Azrael75 I asked about alternative 3 several times and have since been mocked, derided, and confused, but not answered. thanks all of you.
Originally posted by duffster
Common Zorgon what gives you the right so show my house on ATS
All joking aside great find,i wonder why they did not block this out like they do on the moon pics,did some one forget to clean it up or do they think we are all Sheeple.
Shame we can not get this kinda stuff on msm
Star and flag
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
What about the sheer number of people that would have been involved with such a project. It took literally hundreds of thousands of people for the Apollo missions, and that's just the moon. Do you really think that somebody managed to cover up that many people? What, did they just kill them all? Do you think hundreds of thousands of people are going to keep quiet about this kind of thing? There's not one shred of evidence for any of this except for some odd pictures, and those only qualify as evidence of your delusions.
Preposterous statement as you have no idea of the true state of our technology... but as you said your to lazy to even register, so I doubt you would have the skills to follow any research anyway
I would never make such a suggestion... the brain is a powerful computer
Not too many people watching from the Marshall Islands BTW do you know how many secret missions the shuttle flew... yet they were launched with everyone watching?
Well yes now that you mention it its called ISRU In Situ Resource Utilization
Actually they have been testing these in the mines for such a purpose
Actually there is no magic involved. The Aquila Caro Transport can handle 690 tons from Leo translunar to Mars in one trip.
What are you talking about? You mean NASA? NASA has nothing to do with the other space program... Its Space Command and the NAVY
The only one delude here is you because you to lazy to look at stuff right under your eyes...
You are also a coward, hiding behind an anonymous post, no matter your excuses
Originally posted by DagarAn argument that I see used all the time to discredit a UFO cover-up and which is so much twaddle on those occasions as it is when you used it.
If hundred's of thousand of people scream from the rooftops about 'this kind of thing' NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE THEM! That is the beauty of the way the attitude towards the whole UFO, alien, buildings/artifacts on Mars or the moon has been allowed and encouraged to develop.
That attitude is so ingrained in today's society that it has become almost second nature. Mention UFOs or possible bases on Mars to most people and they'll laugh and look at you like you just grew a spare head.
It's an attitude that allows someone to keep a secret by letting everyone know about it, but make sure no one believes it. It also discourages whistleblowers, for the same reason.... no one would believe them, as the few who've tried have found out.
So to sum up... That argument is complete and utter tosh!