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Whats the fuss about 2012?

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posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 01:37 PM
Gentlemen, in 2012 the Geeks shall rule once again, More Ferraris for the Math Club i'd say jolly good.

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 02:39 PM
Its actually about all the planets lining up. Know one knows how the earth magnetic rotational field will react......

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 02:49 PM
Hm...if some apocalyptic end of the world event does occur in 2012, at least I won't have to pay off my college loans.

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 02:54 PM
that would suck cuz i wont even get to go to college if something happened

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 04:17 PM
We survived the 40th anniversary of the creation of the state of Israel in 1949, prophesied to do some damage, according to some, in the old testament.
We survived the whole Y2K bunch of nonsense.
We will survive, also, the year 2012.
(But what do I know, I make entries into a conspiracy forum)

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 05:58 PM
reply to post by Skipper1975

Now that's the kind of positivity we need around here!

Who says we're all just gonna die? If you have faith IN YOURSELF that you have a place in the new age, then you will live to see such a transformation in time!

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 06:07 PM
I think religion will play a big part of it:

You see when people are in immense danger they seek some higher power to rescue them and I think all that energy put into saving them is then going to be answered by the NWO so they can set up their superhero who will be the world leader who will be very charismatic and popular that people will worship like how a famous sporting hero is worshipped by fans of a sport. (but a religious version of that)

People will be so caught up in the person's charisma and popularity that they won't question the ethics, morals, motives for their behavior.

You see it in gossip magazines where a famous person can get arrested for breaking a law or trying to shock you (helps sell magazines and they get exposure as well as create more gossip and challenge the established values of society) and people want to defend the star and attack the people just doing their job. Whereas if it were an average joe, nobody would defend them and say anything.

My point is this guys: in times of crisis people need heroes. So the illuminati create these disastrous events to then get you into a state of shock, then when you are most vulnerable and using your emotional side of your brain (the female half of the species talked about by that guy in the youtube video) and making irrational decisions due to the reaction from the shock, more than logical side, that is when they can tempt you to forget about those rules you once had and just join the rest of the human animals into accepting what the leader wants you to do. Like how the counterculture of the 60s was used to make drug taking popular and encouraging people to not care about their life and be selfish and irresponsible to the detriment of their own health. Lots of the hippies fro mthe 60s work now for corporations. But they didn't give up their new age belief systems.

Now alot of the zeitgiest guys have to understand that the illuminati has infiltrated every area of your life from the entertainment industry, teaching positions in the colleges, grassroots organisations, corporations and they are invisible. The revolution isn't about the use of weapons so much as a war for minds to make you turn against your own established belief systems and replaceing it with their own. (which for now is all about marrying environmentalism with religion)

I think the corrupt organised religions (also infiltrated by them) are the major threat to a one world order because the UN can't make a single one world religion unless there is some way to get people to give up the older beliefs dating back from the old ages if they are to bring about a new age. All existing monotheistic religions as well as atheists will have to somehow be convinced that they must put faith in a one world religion that promotes earth as a living being more important than human life. (religious people currently believe human life is sacred because humans have souls and it is wrong to take a life)

Using the threat of global warming which they want to blame humans for (even though there is warming up of other planets in the solar system not inhabited by us) this is how they can justify killing 2/3 of the human race in the belief that earth can't sustain you.

The younger generations will probably end up brainwashed because many of the teachers were part of the counterculture of the 60s where the government was experimenting with mind-altering drugs on humans. (possibly to find new methods of mind control)

Currently we are seeing a lot of anti-organised religion movies (davinci code, the upcoming movie by the edgar cayce guy, any science fiction movie that paints the aliens as humans' creators) to prepare the public towards acceptance of a one world religion to match the one world government and one world economy. Religion is going to be a big factor in what's to come in the future.

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 06:32 PM
For the kid who watches the zeitgeist movie there is some discussions about the 'jesus mythers' here that points out some of the flaws (these opinions may come from a religious perspective so you must make up your own mind. They challenge the popular theory "that something must not exist if there is no physical evidence, or if it is similar-but-not-identical to something older than itself"):

prison planet forums on the comparisons of jesus to horus

a response to claims the vatican runs the fed (personally I think the roman empire died when the empire fell and the catholic religion is all that remains of it so it's not as powerful as it was in ancient times for them to be able to truly control anything imo..but the catholics should watch out for the 'black pope' just in case! )

talks about jesus myth theory pre-zeitgeist times

This guy is offerring an $1000 award if you prove the connections to the old gods with jesus

Now in the future there might be more attempts to "rage against the system" but this isn't to empower the freethinkers so much as to substitute one old (corrupt) system for a new (corrupt) global one. That's why all this attention on environmentalism with Al Gore's documentary and the popularity of the depopulation of earth idea and all that. They want to make eugenics"cool" to kids. The true greenies are not part of this but are merely being used by the NWO to bring about the depopulation plan using the green movement (which isn't bad in itself) as their tool.

Just as religion is being used to support a war against other religious nutters so that you'll kill for the elite bankers, oilmen, and arms merchants who are making a huge profit from the wars. The bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covert thy neighbours' goods. These people are not following the religion.

This is all about power and control and mind manipulation. It was never about saving the planet, protecting you from danger, or giving you an open mind. It's to make you jump into the one world system that the globalists love. They can't control the planet, and have world domination over all minds unless they unite all religions, all governments, all military into one big one so that their own version of christ (an evil version called "the christ") can be worshipped. Whether you are athiests and agnostics or religious it doesn't matter. As long as the globalist plan to bring it about comes to fruition.

Even if their intentions are good, it's not good if you believe in true relgious(or non-religious) freedom to do and worship what you want.
But the threat of death if you don't do this or don't do that is how these globalists get what they want which is why there is a war on 'terror' - they'll just just create the crisis that makes you panic first then bring in your solution to the crisis. (which is unite the world into a single government that dominates the whole world - where chips will be used to unique id each person and control you)

If you've played the videogame "metal gear solid" they touch on this theme of soldiers not wanting a peaceful world because then they'd have no purpose so "why not create chaos and destruction?" to live in a soldier's fantasy where fighting happens all the time? This may appeal to people who actualy enjoy war as some kind of game or a hobby. And you are seeing it happen for real with these elite who just want to create conflicts to test their weapons and hone them to become better. (like a sim but with real deaths)

But we need an enemy or bad guy to have something to fight. 'Terror' can exist in any shape or form..

[edit on 8-8-2008 by Snake Plisskin]

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 07:24 PM
Oh yeah another reason I disagree with the edgar cayce guy and think computer chips invasively planted in your body will be part of the tracking of humans is because in nazi germany they used punch cards to gather your information and then track down people they didn't like. This is too hard for military to resist because that information provides power.

Now if you think about the illuminati: it's all about "knowledge is power" and imo the idea of having knowledge over what you buy, what you sell, where you go to buy the stuff, how much you can afford to buy etc etc is all part of making a global economy more efficient.

It may not start out nefarious, but be beneficial to society at first. But gradually over many generations as people are used to it they idea will be to stop people who don't like being tracked from being allowed to buy and sell anything. The justification for it is that cash is something criminals and terrorists would use so "what have you got to hide?"

This is something the right wing use to stop you thinking! "what have you got to hide?"
Well if I'm innocent "what right do you have to suspect?"

The problem is this: there are good people who work in the military who don't agree with something but just do it because they have no choice and want to keep their job. This is why it is up to us collectively to challenge the illuminati by providing the legit reasons why something is bad rather than complain that it's happening. If there is none create non-legit (but plausible-sounding) one.

Because every time you lose some civil right, people just whine without planning solutions to do something. To defeat a devil you got to become a devil. Just make up an excuse for why you can't have it just as they make up excuses for why people have to accept it. Just keep creating as many excuses to counter their excuses. If they can make 'mistakes' without being accountable, you can too. Create as many plausible excuses as you can.

As an example telemarketers trying to datamine you for info to sell to a thrid party?
why not get one of these to back it up with 'evidence'. Learn how to be a good bullsh!tter.

[edit on 8-8-2008 by Snake Plisskin]

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 11:50 PM
wow thanks for all that info Snake Plisskin

posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 06:17 AM
ok here is what is meant to happen in earth year 2012 its ether going to be the end of the world or we are all going to have a spiritual ascension and the government is trying to keep this hush hush

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