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reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 04:16 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by _Phoenix_



Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Do you really think the goverment is somehow magically stopping terrorists? lol


It's not magic. It's hard, thankless work and sniffer dogs.

And implications that I am somewhat naive because I believe terrorists can be throttled, if not totally stopped, doesn't work with me. I see the glass and say it is half full.



Originally posted by _Phoenix_

You cannot stop a crazy man who intends to bomb himself and everyone around him.


No, but you can do what you can to make those incidents rare and isolated. You can take down their network of funding and communications. You can infiltrate. And many other things.

Originally posted by _Phoenix_

And if terrorist were a threat, you WOULD be seeing bombs go of every week, no matter what the goverment does.



Qualify that by saying if terrorism were an unanswered threat.

The history of terrorism shows that they work on a different clock than we do. It is not unusual for a period of years to elapse between major attacks. They rely on your complacency and careless attitude to succeed.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 04:19 PM by _Phoenix_
reply to post by jsobecky



In iraq there used to be terrorist attacks every week, even the army could not stop that.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 04:28 PM by loam
Originally posted by DJMessiah
If the dogs are being directed by their trainers to specifically go after Muslim or Middle Eastern looking people, then it's not protection, when they're taking away the freedom of one group in exchange for protection of another.


Well. I think you muddle two concepts here. If, as you say, Muslims are being singled out and the use of snifer dogs is specifically designed to harass them, then I agree that would be unacceptable. But that does not appear to be the case here, nor does this have anything to do with taking away "freedoms" of one group in exchange for the protection of another.

Whether Muslim or not, they are ALL the riding public and subject to the same requirements.

As I have said, I do not believe using snifer free public transportation is a right. So if that's a problem for ANYBODY, then chose some alternative mode of private transportation.

Originally posted by DJMessiah
It seems people were spreading misinformation, making it seem that the Muslims want to be excluded from being sniffed, when all they want is not to be touched by the dogs.

The sniffing dogs should still sniff, just not touch. Is that too much to ask for?

Those Muslims wanted the dogs to be kept from touching them. They didn't oppose being sniffed by them.


Well, again, as long as Muslims are not being uniquely singled out for snifer contact, then I see no issue here. The source article says:


But banning them from touching passengers would severely restrict their ability to do their job.


I'm not a snifer handler, so if this statement is true, and ALL passengers are subject to potential snifer contact, I say where's the problem? Where's the discrimination? Where's the injustice?

Sorry. I see none.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 04:37 PM by shuck
reply to post by _Phoenix_



I know its off topic but just an observation...seems like there are a lot of younger people on this site...that is such a good thing...to see things in black and white....but as you get older and see and exprience this life...
You see a different colour...grey!!

I am all for sniffer dogs ...they deal in black and white...but never push an opinion!!
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