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Sniffer dogs offend Muslims

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posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by loam
I hadn't realized being sniffed by a dog was so dangerous! Will I drop dead on the spot?


I need to get me some cayenne pepper fast!

I don't know if you'd drop dead instantly, but if rover made a snack out of your Johnson, you'd probably hope so.




posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:29 PM
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Well if not islam Buddhism is an option has that base been covered yet by an over active and paranoid democratic state?
North Korea Watch out, your next! LOL



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by LLoyd45
if rover made a snack out of your Johnson, you'd probably hope so.


Then maybe we shouldn't be suggesting the use of condiments (semi-pun intended) on our Johnsons.





posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:33 PM
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Why is this even news?
I mean really Talk about bigger fish to fy.

Sniffer dogs......................................


Out of curiosity does anyone know exactly how it offends Islamic beliefs.
Honestly that is somthing im interested to know. If it has allready been posted then im sorry im still reading all the posts.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:33 PM
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Sniffer dogs in public are really about propoganda and instilling fear in the population to enforce a system of control.

I have been in a nightclub when cops raided the place and made everyone walk out in single file past sniffer dogs. I felt totally violated that just by going to a nightclub that has been safe and fun for ever I was being treated like a criminal and forced to walk outside past sniffer dogs. AND it was also a mental violation, its pretty difficult to go back to having a drink and hanging with friends after some intervention like that. Those bastards made me feel like crap for having done absolutely nothing wrong!



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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You may have been out for a quiet drink, others were out to push drugs, sorry you're night was ruined, maybe they shouldn't have bothered maybe poor lisa should have taken that ecstasy overdose.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:49 PM
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...maybe poor lisa should have taken that ecstasy overdose.


You're right, maybe she should have. And then maybe responsible adults can go out for a quiet drink without having to deal with dumb-asses and police dogs.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by primamateria
Sniffer dogs in public are really about propoganda and instilling fear in the population to enforce a system of control.

I have been in a nightclub when cops raided the place and made everyone walk out in single file past sniffer dogs. I felt totally violated that just by going to a nightclub that has been safe and fun for ever I was being treated like a criminal and forced to walk outside past sniffer dogs. AND it was also a mental violation, its pretty difficult to go back to having a drink and hanging with friends after some intervention like that. Those bastards made me feel like crap for having done absolutely nothing wrong!

I remember they brought in sniffer dogs to our high school once. The only drugs found were in the locker of the Judge Executive's son and one of our teachers. Neither of which received any sort of punishment I might add..


Not only are the dogs used as a means of intimidation, but like you said, you feel violated physically and mentally afterwards.

I can't fault any person, Muslim or not for finding this practice objectionable.

[edit on 6/27/08 by LLoyd45]



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by LLoyd45
LOL, Actually I used to like dogs as a kid, but after having the back of my leg ripped open once, and my calf muscles mauled twice, I just can't find any love in my heart for Man's best friend any longer.. It's cool if you like dogs, but I'm strictly a cat person nowadays.



I'm sorry a dog(s) did those things to you, especially as a child. Now if you would have said it happened a few years ago, I would have said you're a big wimp, but now I can empathize. At least you like cats. Maybe one of these days, something will happen to make you like dogs again--you never know. I totally understand the part about the private part sniffing...I think...


I don't know enough about Muslims to make any judgments, but this issue is clearly ridiculous. Anyone who doesn't want a dog to literally just touch them because of their religion has some serious problems. Don't they know that God spelled backwards is Dog? Duh! And Allah spelled backwards in canine language is Doggy? Geez. Some people have to take things so seriously. Again, other than the dog issue, I really can't judge. As soon as I find out more ridiculous aspects, then I can judge properly.

I also understand the issue of personal rights, but the use of sniffer dogs seems old hat compared to some of the procedures they're coming up with these days. I mean having someone in a room watching a slideshow of your private parts...oh, here we go again! Talk about feeling violated! I think that's the real issue here--the government keeps trying to mess with our privates-cy.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:11 PM
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sniffer dogs are like metal detectors, metal detectors prevent people from carrying guns/knives on board and sniffer dogs prevent people from carrying explosives on board.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by queenT
I'm sorry a dog(s) did those things to you, especially as a child. Now if you would have said it happened a few years ago, I would have said you're a big wimp, but now I can empathize. At least you like cats. Maybe one of these days, something will happen to make you like dogs again--you never know. I totally understand the part about the private part sniffing...I think...
Thanks Queen. I'd never hurt a dog except in self-defense, but I just don't like them around me. Some people are like that with cats, and I respect that too.


I don't know enough about Muslims to make any judgments, but this issue is clearly ridiculous. Anyone who doesn't want a dog to literally just touch them because of their religion has some serious problems. Don't they know that God spelled backwards is Dog? Duh! And Allah spelled backwards in canine language is Doggy? Geez. Some people have to take things so seriously. Again, other than the dog issue, I really can't judge. As soon as I find out more ridiculous aspects, then I can judge properly.
Most of the Muslims I've met have been very friendly, and if they like you, they'll be the best friend you ever had. I met a few I didn't like as well, but no more or less than any other nationality of people.


I also understand the issue of personal rights, but the use of sniffer dogs seems old hat compared to some of the procedures they're coming up with these days. I mean having someone in a room watching a slideshow of your private parts...oh, here we go again! Talk about feeling violated! I think that's the real issue here--the government keeps trying to mess with our privates-cy.
Privacy is the key issue, and "Yes" those airport scanners are scandalous to say the least! They're soft porn for Transit cops..

[edit on 6/27/08 by LLoyd45]



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:15 PM
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i dunno who to be more pissed off at

the whiney muslims for whining

or the sissy people for giving in


absolutely P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C

[edit on 27-6-2008 by Andrew E. Wiggin]



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
i dunno who to be more pissed off at

the whiney muslims for whining

or the sissy americans for giving in


absolutely P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C


It seems to me that reporters were asking muslims views on dogs. No one was demanding anything.

And who is giving in to anything?

Plus this is not in america lol.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
i dunno who to be more pissed off at

the whiney muslims for whining

or the sissy americans for giving in


absolutely P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C
Aren't you the same guy who always whines about people criticizing Barack Obama? Can you say Hippocrit..



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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whoops - yer right, not americans (meant to say people...have been doing a post on americans......
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but it does say they did something about it...so you have me confused there



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 07:06 PM
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Poor Muslims.


I'm a Christian and a die hard cat person and don't really like for a dog to be around me for any reason and especially a sniffing one (YUCK!
Maybe it's a woman thing.), but I would tolerate it if it kept a terrorist out of my airport or train station, so I can go home to my dog-hating cats alive and in one piece. I wouldn't be selfish and whine to anyone that a police dog is doing it's job and I get a little uncomfortable for a few moments. Maybe those who died on the airplanes on 9/11 would strongly suggest we let the dogs do their job and if it bothers us, go eat some chocolate and get over it.

Cowboy up, Muslims. If I would have to put up with it, why can't you?



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Maybe those who died on the airplanes on 9/11 would strongly suggest we let the dogs do their job and if it bothers us, go eat some chocolate and get over it.


Um, the 9/11 terrorists weren't carrying any bombs that dogs would have sniffed out.

Exactly where would you draw the line between "comfort" and "safety."

Public service note: Never feed chocolate to dogs.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 07:28 PM
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I know those particular doofuses on 9/11 were not carrying bombs.
But do ya think some other murderous slime bags might? You know, like in 1997 when the WTC was bombed. Maybe some bomb sniffing dogs could check vehicles parked in the parking lot, too, when the crowds thin out at airports and train stations at night.

I made my cat mad the other night and it went outside and peed on my windshield and on MY side, too. Dogs knock you down, but it takes a cat to put you in your place.

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Cool video about the training of police attack dogs earlier in the post. The trainer being pulled out of the van by the dog was way cool, too. Just don't tell my cats I said that. They wouldn't like it at all .


[edit on 27-6-2008 by Bowcatz001]



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 07:34 PM
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I read the first four pages and became rather stressed out, mostly by Lloyd. These dogs do not sniff in your crotch or butt. You have never seen a drug searching dog do this. They don't even do it when they find drugs or bombs. They sit down immediately. Your rights are not being violated, and a warrant is not needed if the dog signals that it has found drugs.

By the line of unbelievably unintelligent logic that Lloyd so graciously provided, we should not have metal detectors or pat downs either as that is obviously a search. So, no dogs, no pat downs, no metal detectors, no questions (of course, as that would be profiling), no security at all. Who needs security anyway?

Not to mention you don't have the right to fly or to drive. Those are privileges. So if you don't feel like being searched, feel free not to walk into an airport. The police won't bust into your house with the crotch sniffing dogs that are so very fearsome, I promise.

The fourth amendment says "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."

If the dog sits down, the search is not unreasonable as the dog has been taught to sniff drugs and has signaled that he has found some. These dogs are not the same as the police dogs you see on COPS that have been taught to attack on command and take people down. Don't get them confused.

Your rights are not being infringed upon. Quit whining.

Onto the Muslims. They seem to be offended again, surprise surprise. The Muslims, along with nearly every other group of people on the planet, are always offended at something. Wah wah. I'm sick and tried of hearing how everything is so offensive. Thank God the British gave them the finger and the classic "get over it" line.

The Muslims do not warrant any special treatment because they are Muslim. I know this comes as a shocker to some, but religious groups aren't special.

To the whiners: grow up. No one is infringing on your rights.

*in rush the PC police to clean up the mess*



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 07:36 PM
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Everyone I've ever met who did not like dog's were in reality scared of them and it was part of the phobia. Since dogs are clean and contact with them poses zero risk it is fairly obvious that anyone other than Muslims objecting is either afraid of getting caught with something
or they have an irrational fear called a phobia.

This does not seem like much of a problem since a dog can pick up scents from a distance, meaning that they need never touch a person to catch them with explosives or drugs. If the dogs are kept at a distance and anyone still objects they are likely afraid of being caught or they are suffering from a phobia or mental illness.

If I were a Terrorist planning on killing innocent people with a bomb, I'd for sure be objecting to the dog's
Of course that is obvious and the Muslims do themselves a disservice with this nonsense based on archaic laws probably meant to control fleas and parasites before hygiene and education improved. Or has it improved in all cultures?



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