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Topic started on 10-6-2008 @ 05:12 PM by FlyersFan
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Well ... where is it?
Story here - one of many
It seems that Obama won't release his birth certificate. He doesn't HAVE have it released, but it's been asked for. McCain released his birth
certificate to show that he's indeed an American citizen. So why hasn't the Obama camp released his? What's the big deal with not wanting to show
it? MANY times a potential POTUS (and their spouse) release more info than is required. (like Cindy McCain releasing her separate tax records)
Astrologers want to know!
They can't do a reading until they know the time of birth!
Some states had places on the certificate to list the religion of the child.
hmmmmmm ..... Wonder what it could be?
I smell ... CONSPIRACY!!
Well Obama ... release your birth certificate please.
BTW .. we are all still waiting for John Kerry to fully release his military records for the 2004 presidential run. Guess Obama could be pulling
another 'Kerry', eh?
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 05:17 PM by intrepid
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Not to be knit picky but does this fall under "fact" or "rumor"?
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 05:18 PM by RRconservative
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There you go again FlyersFan...questioning Obama...that's racism you know. 
It is unbelieveable that someone running for President of the United States can have so many un-answered questions surrounding them. This is just
another one that will be swept under the rug.
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 05:26 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by intrepid
Not to be knit picky but does this fall under "fact" or "rumor"?
 Fact. (as far as I know)
And no .. he doesn't HAVE TO release it.
I think it's funny that astrologers are frustrated and are calling for him to.
Of course .. there COULD be a conspiracy to this .... (considering it's a poltician and all )  There ARE rumors and conjecture as to why he
won't release it. But the fact is that he isn't and he doesn't have to.
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 05:30 PM by LLoyd45
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I don't see where producing his birth certificate is asking so much of the man? I have to do it when I apply for a job, why shouldn't he for the
presidency?
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 05:38 PM by FlyersFan
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Lloyd ... it shouldn't be a big deal for Obama to produce it. I'm pretty sure that it isn't something that is usually released to the public, but
in this case the public IS ASKING FOR IT.
He should release it. (He doesn't HAVE to .. but he SHOULD)
His stalling and not releasing it tells people that there is something on it that he doesn't want people to see.
He can't claim privacy issues. He's running for POTUS. Nothing is private.
[edit on 6/10/2008 by FlyersFan]
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 05:50 PM by spec_ops_wannabe
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reply to post by FlyersFan
Just like a little old quote from one of our favorite Founding Fathers:
"When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property."
Thomas Jefferson
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 05:58 PM by Witness2008
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Could it be that Obama would like to keep family members out of the spot light. Mothers maiden name would lead many slueths in many directions. I'm
sure all of Obamas personal records have been vetted. Anyone asking for a birth cirtificate IMO is scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:15 PM by Mirthful Me
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That's top secret...
Originally posted by Witness2008
Could it be that Obama would like to keep family members out of the spot light. Mothers maiden name would lead many slueths in many directions.
Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack Hussein Obama's mother... All courtesy of Wikipedia...
Sometimes it's better to do a little research before you fall all over yourself apologizing and excusing someone's actions. And you would have found
out Barack's mother's first name was Stanley.
p.s. Stanley has passed away, so there not much of a chance of her being disturbed by any "sleuths." That would be another "fun fact" to factor
in.
As for the birth certificate... I'd love to see it... You know... Just in case...
Homework Monkeys, not just for doing it anymore...
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:28 PM by LLoyd45
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I'm glad you mentioned the family angle Witness. I've thought about that a great deal, and find it funny that all his relatives seem to be in
seclusion.
His Grandmother refuses to talk to anyone from the media, and I don't think anyone has heard a peep from his brother
Obongo "Roy" Obama. The father and mother are both deceased I believe.
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:31 PM by The time lord
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Is America that stupid that they do not check to see if someone is legitimate for the role of president? if so then no wonder 9/11 happenned it seems
to me that they let it happen and if Obama is Osama Bin Ladin with plastic surgury then I would not be suprised.
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:33 PM by Jemison
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Maybe he hasn't released it yet because his father is listed as being Arabic on his birth certificate as opposed to black?
Just a thought
Jemison
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:35 PM by jamie83
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by intrepid
Not to be knit picky but does this fall under "fact" or "rumor"?
 Fact. (as far as I know)
And no .. he doesn't HAVE TO release it.
I think it's funny that astrologers are frustrated and are calling for him to.
I'm not sure why he wouldn't have to provide evidence he is a natural born citizen. How else could he prove he's a natural born citizen if he
doesn't release his birth certificate?
If somebody files a lawsuit contesting that Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirement to be POTUS I would think that he would be forced to
provide the documentation. Otherwise, if it came out later, he would not only be removed from office, but he would be in really deep legal trouble in
terms of fraud, etc.
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:38 PM by MagicaRose
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I love FlyersFan's posts!
FlyersFan you would be a fantastic Private Investigator!
Keep up the great work!
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:42 PM by jetxnet
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LOL too funny Time Lord, you just never know.
One of the requirements of the POTUS is to have been born here.
Arnold Schwartzenegger has been trying to change this fact, so he can run in the future.
Obama MUST provide a legal birlth certificate before and if becoming POTUS. It must be a fake one, but the original. No amount of money should be able
to sway this, but somehow I think it already has been.
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:43 PM by ThePiemaker
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:44 PM by Agit8dChop
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Maybe because he knows there's so much ignorance and racism out there, that people who look at the mute points like his fathers religion or race will
casue a stir over something so patheticly minor.
People should be focusing on him, the way he talks, the way he walks, the way he looks you in the eye and TELLS you what he thinks.
Suppose he does release it, and his fathers arabic..
How long will it take for an ats:
'' Obama is the Son of a terrorist sympathiser '' thread to open up?
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:45 PM by Benevolent Heretic
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Another Obama Rumor thread. Just what we need. That's a BLOG that you used as a "source".
While bloggers claim that Barack has refused to make the birth certificate public, not a single one has backed up the claim by pointing to a
statement from the Obama campaign refusing to release the document. Even if Obama is indeed keeping his birth certificate private, the State
Department's web site seems to settle the question of dual citizenship. As for the non-isssue of Barack's real name, according to Politifact, the
numerous documents that are publicly available all list the candidate as "Barack Hussein Obama" or "Barack H. Obama." If his actual name were
"Barry Hussein Mohammed Al-Queda Bin Laden Death To America Obama," surely one of these documents would at least provide some clue to that
effect.
Source
Fan those flames!  I believe there's a rumor out there that insists he's an alien. Why haven't you started a thread about that? Also, my
husband's brother said Obama was born a girl. Maybe that's why he "refuses" to release his birth certificate!
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:50 PM by LLoyd45
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We already know his half-brother Obongo is a muslim activist, so if
his father was a muslim sympathizer, I doubt anyone would fall out of their chair in shock..
[edit on 6/10/08 by LLoyd45]
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reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 06:50 PM by Mirthful Me
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There's an interesting thought...
Originally posted by jamie83
If somebody files a lawsuit contesting that Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirement to be POTUS I would think that he would be forced to
provide the documentation.
A class action suit on behalf of 300 million U.S. citizens... Or at least we think they're citizens...
I'm not sure what I'd rather watch... Barack's campaign jump through hoops on this one... Or Hillary's campaign... Errr... Group of friends who
would like to see her in the White House salivate at the potential downfall of their rival...
Mystery, intrigue, cheesy plots... Only the Democrats could make a soap opera out of a presidential election...
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